Hi all

brought a Pc 2 years ago for $2000 dollars and what a hunk of crap. i have since upgraded over a few months getting cash together,

Here is my old specs vs my New Specs

Old specs

2.6GHZ I5 processor

4 Gig of Ram

500 Gig hard drive

GEforce GT220

450watt power supply

Windows 7 Home editon


NEW SPECS

I7 3.4GHZ

16 Gig of Ram

2TB internal Hard drive

Geforce GTX 670

850 watt power supply

Windows 7 Pro

Dual LED monitor setup...


Tell me what you think.....

its a better system but brands of the gear helps

a 2TB HD might be slow these days try a SSD for the OS keep the 2TB for data

get 120htz montor

I would definitely get an SSD.

For the HDD I would make sure to get a 7200RPM drive.

Sorry brands are

Motherboard: ASROCK Z77 PRO 4-M

Gigabyte NIVDIA GTX670

Western digtal: 2tb

2 Samsung 3d monitors 27 inch

corsair 16 gig ram sticks

all up $1400

Are you going to be doing any encoding, rendering or non-gaming related heavy cpu tasks?

If you are not I would go for an i5 unless money isn't an issue. I imagine it is though since you are going for GTX 670.

Why 16Gb of RAM? 8Gb is more than enough. You would get more performance cutting back to an i5 + 8Gb RAM and getting a GTX 680.

purely for gaming

isnt a i7 better then a i5? and i had a gt220 the gtx 670 cost me $450 it has to be half decent...

Hi, your new rig is alright, I guess.

You have done well hold out until the 6xxx cards came along, seems you've already made the purchases. I would have gone for a 680, less ram, an ssd and smaller hard drive.
Have you done a 3dmark11 benchie yet, do it and get your score up on baits ladder.

For someone that's so anal about audio you recommend a monitors with poor image quality?

Only get 120hz if you really need it. Playing on max settings with a TN panel is like playing at low/medium settings on a higher end monitor minus the extra effects. If you really need the high refresh rate there are some korean monitors for around $400 that can do 100hz.

You won't notice any difference at all between a i5 vs i7 quads if you're just gaming. May as well spend the savings on a faster video card or cooling for overclocking.

go **** yourself smokes. gaming = FPS

for his vid card he should be looking at 1920*1080 on a 23inch @120hz for FPS games at best

any larger screen then 23 his 670 wont cut it and at that size a 670 should be able to get more then 60 frames making the 120 shine in FPS games

if he isnt a FPS gamer then he can go **** himself too

The specs are pretty good as they are, although, you probably don't need Win 7 Pro unless you're looking to put more than 16GB of RAM in it. Also, don't skimp on the power supply or the motherboard.

Asus VG236H 23" 2ms 1920x1080 Full HD HDMI multimedia Height & Swivel Adjustable WideScreen LCD 120Hz 3D Monitor w/nVidia 3D Vision Kit hard bundle 400 cd/m2 100,000:1 (ASCR)

that one - makes 2d look way better/ smoother so the reason to get it isn't just some 3D gimmik crap (tho some 3D stuff does work well, surprisingly)

Actually having a look at his old specs assuming that the i5 was a quadcore it wasn't bad at all. All it needed was a cpu aftermarket cooler followed by some routine cpu overclocking, a new vid card and new power supply.

so basically getting a new everything and it would be ok

It looks all good.

As for 120hz, if u want 120hz over IPS then go nothing but the Samsung SA950 series, as anything else thats 120hz on the market has horrible 2d image quality. The Samsung is also a TN panel, however its one of the better ones, i have the 23" one myself as my alt monitor (main is Dell 27" IPS 2560x1440), and it has good viewing angles and contrast ratio for a TN, makes getting on 120hz/120fps well worth it for some games. Fast paced games like, fps, totally shines on 120hz, while most other games is owned by IPS hands down.

Right now I think the PC monitor market is WAYYY behind in tech. Why? Because we need a monitor that has the colours of IPS, response of TN and the contrast of VA panels. How about OLED ffs! Hurry da helll up LG/Samsung! Instead of *** going to court, get back to *** work! (/rant over)

By the way, your first system was also decent had u a decent video card. You coulda equivalently just overclocked the old system and just shoved a 680/7970 in it

Have a look at some of the korean monitors, they have 27" monitors around the price of some 23" 3D screens and support higher refresh rates via overclocking while still using an (S?)IPS panel. Many user reviews say they look better than the Dell 2711 because of the little or no anti glare coating.

Consider this monitor

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai ... s_id=19712

It uses PLS which is better than IPS.

As for OLED...well we were promised a heap of different technologies that were touted as clearly superior that never eventuated. I understand OLED is already available just at a very premium price but I have learned to be doubtful of such developments.

my asus 120htz has very good 2d image - very clean sharp and clear

sure i dont use it to make photo realistic images in Photoshop for the international top flight magazine i work for but it looks great to me

All the 120Hz monitors have good image quality for TN panels. If you are doing some sort of visual/photo work yes they are not your first preference and for work purposes you may be better off with an IPS or better panel. Even within IPS panels you may need to find one that is better than others. The Dell IPS monitor range are not the best IPS panels out there but are also considerably cheaper than their superior competitors.

For gaming though there is no competition - 120Hz are the flagship. The big wait is for a company to come out with a 27" 1440p 120Hz monitor. People mention the Catleap 27" 1440p 100Hz (refresh rate overclocked) monitors. Yes the higher refresh rate is good but they are still subject to input lag/ghosting as per other IPS panels.

No we wont be seeing an IPS 120Hz monitor any time soon even if it is 1080p. The reason being IPS technology cannot cycle pixels fast enough thus making it currently impossible. We haven't seen a 1440p 120Hz TN monitor yet is because of niche market demand and connectivity. Display port needs to become more mainstream/becomes the official successor to DVI (which is slowly happening). One could hope that not only does DP replace DVI but also HDMI because that would make life even easier.

I thought CAT6 was gonna be replacing HDMI at some point.

Eh? CAT6 is ethernet and on that note we are up to CAT7 to the best of my knowledge.

PLS is only really comparable with eIPS displays, there's a reason why other monitors can cost 3x as much as the Samsung.

Have you used any eIPS displays? They have very similar response times to TN based displays. With the Catleap, input lag only seemed to be an issue with the multi input versions, the DVI only version is said to be the better version for gaming.

Hmm i better look into this Catleap 1440p 100hz deal. I wonder if DL-DVI even supports 100hz at that res...

I don't think it does.

DL-DVI is capable of 2560*1600 @ 60Hz or 1920*1080 @ 120Hz (these have approximately the same bandwidth).

2560*1440 @ 100Hz is considerably more bandwidth although I'm not sure how overclocking refresh rates work exactly as that might overclock the DVI channel and increase its bandwidth. Otherwise you will need to use display port.

Yes I also have a 30" Dell and I dislike playing even a game like Diablo 3 on that monitor because the image is overall less responsive.

After some research it looks like both NV and AMD drivers can be forced to run at 2560x1440 @100-120hz via DVI. Though the outcomes do vary, it is quite possible.

And heres someone who has already done it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ddlTe8zEU

Theres another vid on tube that shows how to tweak the drivers to achieve the refresh rate, by the same person.