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Just saw this http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articl ... e-keynote/ and as I'm looking to upgrade from 280gtx SLI what are peoples thoughts on this card?
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It' will be **** loads better than what you have. But it's going to be hard to get one right now and its going to be farking expensive. If you can get one good for you and if you do benck mark that **** on 3dmark 11 and post your score on baits 3dmark11 ladder.
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looks good, but iv already got a 680 so i wont be upgrading http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gef ... ,3188.htmlhttp://media.bestofmicro.com/4/H/335825 ... _690_F.jpgcant wait to see Australian pricing though $1200+ i reckon 
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Tax time in July so its not a rush. I have a figure of around $4.5 without monitor
Not sure if this card would be suitable for those funds as I'd want other things like an SSD drive, plenty of drive storage and a good sound setup for my Beyerdynamic cans.
Also trying to wrap my head around the motherboard space for a sound card (if needed and with the onboard I use now I really think I do) and graphic card spacing. Don't know if I go with a motherboard that says it has a proper dedicated chip for onboard sound like those Gigabyte G1's so it frees up PCI slots for a 690 or possible 680/680SLI with better airflow. Actually think though that they look **** with fake gun parts and I'm not into looks so whats the deal with that? Can you get good onboard sound in other motherboards? Plus after running Tri SLI last year and the heat/crashes I got with that I don't want to go down that path again.SLI has been great and its never a problem but Tri suxed balls.
The configurations of chip, card, sound, case vs money are tricky to work out I'm finding. Appreciate any help.
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I have given up on sound cards for the moment i find Gigabytes on board is better for just headphones and the installed mixer works a treat with a bit of fiddling.
Although i would like a dedicated mixing desk but they are really hard to find and the really good software costs heaps and really isn't necessary unless your going for a sound card with an external preamp and a quad speaker system .
Also the key to a great experience with headphones is the quality of the head phones which is a whole chapter in it self.
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Na just will be using my Beyerdynamic MMX300 headphones. With my computer I got now I have to use the USB adapter with its +/- to get a higher sound output rather then with plugging them in with the 3.5mm plug. It seems like the sound is better without the USB but I cant get it loud enough for my 40 year old ears. Which is why I want to get the sound right with a new system.
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Does anyone know the length of this card?
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about this long [--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
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Damn, that means it's one hyphen too long. What am I going to do?
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Grind off some of your case.
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put it in the microwave. it should shrink a bit to fit your case nicely. but dont over cook or it might get too small!  Thats my last GTX 570 that i accidentally left in for 5 extra mins while i was distracted ;(
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You look like you could do with some of that fungus stuff on your nails.
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the fungus in my brain commands me to leave my finger fungus alone
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Magic mashies in the belly. Mmmm
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 So I guess it will fit in my little toaster.
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Lucky, I have only a mm or two between my 590 and hdd cage.
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Just cut out the cage ;p It looks like this might be the card to get for me. The only thing I am concerned about is running it on a 600w PSU, because it's hard to get bigger PSU's for the mitx cases. But this guru bloke on [H] said it should scrape by on a quality 600w. SLI ITX would be tight as ****.
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That should run fine under a good 600W psu. Running sli GTX 480s which draw considerably more and the highest draw the PC pulled was ~620W (folding on cpu + both gpus; this draws more than say 3dmark).
Playing BF3 I usually draw about 500-530W so I predict if you were playing BF3 you would be drawing about 450W.
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Minimum Recommended power for this is 650w.
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SAUCE? I agree with Gung-Ho, if you have a quality 600W it should be right, as long as other components aren't drawing too much power. Quote: Well, the 690 is a 300 watt card, probably close to 375/400 with OCing. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1689638
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The minimum power recommended for a gtx680 is 550w.
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ive gone too short on power once b4.
This was with a GTX 275 a notorious power hungry card. Thought id get by, right on the line, using the min spec. It was a good PSU, quality brand, too so i thought id be fine.
But its all in the Max continuous output AND Peak watt usage.
But after suffering just random reboots isnt fun because your system is just not getting enuf power at peak. So i had to get a whole new PSU 100 watts over spec for the reboots to go away - i wont ever scape the min spec line again.
Now i always go way over spec with my PSU
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ruleofbookz wrote: ive gone too short on power once b4.
This was with a GTX 275 a notorious power hungry card. Thought id get by, right on the line, using the min spec. It was a good PSU, quality brand, too so i thought id be fine.
But its all in the Max continuous output AND Peak watt usage.
But after suffering just random reboots isnt fun because your system is just not getting enuf power at peak. So i had to get a whole new PSU 100 watts over spec for the reboots to go away - i wont ever scape the min spec line again.
Now i always go way over spec with my PSU +1 i bought my thermaltake 1200w psu after having an oc'ed core2 quad and gtx280 sli suffer from random reboots with a corsair HX750 and well this 1200w psu has lasted through several system upgrades
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I'm wishing I could find a store in Perth today I could get a 680. Thinking 680 sli might be eager than trying to snag a 690.
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Sometimes even quality brands have bad product lines and there is always the chance of a faulty/damaged unit. I'm running a 2600K with sli GTX 480s under a Corsair HX750
The peak draw I'm getting can't be achieved in gaming. Just ran 3dmark 2011 and max draw noted was 522W.
Gave the gpus an overclock though and reached 690W (vcore .975 versus 1.50; 701 versus 850MHz).
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its better to have a little too much and not need it then to need and and have too little
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O yeah totally with you there.
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Aren't random reboots under load the least of your worries if you are underpowering your system? Doesn't it have the capability to **** over your parts?
edit; I stopped being so ignorant and did some research. Apparently most modern PSU's have sort of like a surge protection thing built in which will shut it off if there is too much strain on it. So it will shut off before damaging components (in theory). So hypothetically speaking if I was to buy a 690, I would be best off seeing how it would run on the stock 600w, and if it doesn't want to work, I will just upgrade to another PSU. I've found a 650W antec which will fit. It's kind of hard replacing this psu, as it needs to be in ATX form factor, and cannot be modular. Most of the higher wattage PSU's are modular or not ATX size.
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Played BF3 tonight and noted power draw was between 450W-500W
I would expect a stock 690 in my system would draw 400-430W playing BF3. Probably less since I doubt the two cores would be running 100% assuming 120 fps cap.
I honestly don't think you'll have a problem. Being m-itx the motherboard itself will have a reduced power draw and you aren't going to be running many peripheral devices.
IMO the only damage insufficient power can do is damage a HDD as the spindle thing may drop on the platter with a sudden power outage. Other than that it would either result in reboots or just not running 100%. A power surge is different and that is related more to the quality of the psu itself.
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Yeah I don't think it will be a problem. Apparently this psu is pretty good for being rated at 600W. I've also noticed a lot of people on hardforum saying the 690 has a TDP of 300W, which is pretty low considering!
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Don't sell yourself short mate you deserve better.
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Yeah, I wouldn't get it. But I remember someone was saying they would have rathered the nvidia announcement be about that rather than the 690.
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Looks like a GTX680 with future SLI for me. In Melbourne, Computer Parts Land has a Gigabyte 4G GTX690 listed for $1699 Scorptec has the same one at $1599 while Centrecom has an Asus 690 for $1529 How they are that price compared to the 580/590 difference is mind boggling.
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the card has just come out thou and pretty much none of these places have stock. the card is RRP $999usd
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Those high prices are filler/idiot pricing.
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Australian dollar is pretty strong compared to the US at the moment. I have no idea how they have come to the conclusion that the card is worth 600 dollars more over here. You are stupid to buy one for over 1k.
edit; even buying a card for 1k is pretty stupid. But a 1k price tag was expected.
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I currently have a EVGA superclocked 560ti is there a big increase in performance if I bought a 680
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having one 680would be like having sli 570's
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Audi wrote: having one 680would be like having sli 570's ok, so it's a solid upgrade then, I might get one in a few weeks
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There is a V sync driver problem that won't be fixed until the June patch-a-thon, Nvidia's solution disable V sync.
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iv never used vsync anyway
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Neither, it creates lag.
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certain games also really dont like it
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Mitch how are you finding the 680's?
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aud1 wrote: Mitch how are you finding the 680's? bloody awesome a big step up from single gtx580
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Ordered and deposit down on my system last week. Waiting only for 680 from OS now. Thanks for some of the above suggestions. If I screwed up anything real bad, please let me know as they said I have until build starts to make any final changes. I think I'm happy with it and I only sweated over the monitor... though check out the case, way overkill, kids ain't kicking this one over  I will probably sli it later in the year and also add a few more drives and maybe a sound card if the onboard isn't as good as it says. CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Gigabyte G1-SNIPER-3 Motherboard Kingston 16GB Kit (4x4GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Hard Disk Intel 240GB SSD, 2.5", 520 Series Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black Case Cooler Master Cosmos II Pioneer BDR-207DBK Black 12X Blu-Ray Gigabyte Geforce GTX680 Overclocked Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W Asus 27" 3D LED Widescreen Monitor Microsoft B2M-00009 Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit cheers
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fencer wrote: Ordered and deposit down on my system last week. Waiting only for 680 from OS now. Thanks for some of the above suggestions. If I screwed up anything real bad, please let me know as they said I have until build starts to make any final changes. I think I'm happy with it and I only sweated over the monitor... though check out the case, way overkill, kids ain't kicking this one over  I will probably sli it later in the year and also add a few more drives and maybe a sound card if the onboard isn't as good as it says. CPU Intel Core i7 3770K Gigabyte G1-SNIPER-3 Motherboard Kingston 16GB Kit (4x4GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Hard Disk Intel 240GB SSD, 2.5", 520 Series Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black Case Cooler Master Cosmos II Pioneer BDR-207DBK Black 12X Blu-Ray Gigabyte Geforce GTX680 Overclocked Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W Asus 27" 3D LED Widescreen Monitor Microsoft B2M-00009 Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bit cheers id swap the case for the Obsidian Series 800D edit..... ^ forget that the cosmos II is a beast of a case for some reason i thought of the old cosmos case  and get a good cpu cooler to oc that 3770k a H100 would fit nice up the top of that case or even a proper water cooling loop
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I probably wont be overclocking this year so I though the Noctua would be quiet and reliable enough? I'm also freaked out about the thought of water/electrical and my kids. Not to mention my wife and her spooky ability to break my computers.. I did see how it would take a H100 up the top of the case and it was one reason I picked it as I had one on my list at the start, but I think I'll pass on it for now.
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