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lol,the 22" is looking a bit small I have been having a bit of a look around for a new screen, any recommendations for something <$1500? has to be 120hz 27"+.
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Asus vg278h. They are only $600, so you'll have a lot of spare change.
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Just get 2. **** lol @ a 1500 dollar price limit on a monitor. That **** cray.
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You should get some ultra high res monitor that doctors use for X-rays nings.
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Tah, I'll take a look at that Asus. Did a bit of a drive around to look at some monitors needless to say but most stores don't carry what I'm after. I like Samsung, I'm not a fan of the style of the new monitor itself, I did see the 23" version of it and I'm not a fan.It was also hard to tell if the picture quality is any good. http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/pc-p ... y_20120508http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai ... s_id=21588looks god, this shop was also helpful with my wc project so I have no problem buying through them again.Only thing is as **** as my audio is I don't see the point in speakers in a monitor.
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Audi wrote: You should get some ultra high res monitor that doctors use for X-rays nings. Yeah they won't be 120hz compatible or be a 27" for the given price but yeah they'll definitely be worth it. The greyscale accuracy will make games really stand out especially with the input lag.
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Went straight over your head didn't it smokes.
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wasn't smokes the guy going on about getting 100hz mnitors or some such **** not long ago? I think I'll get that xray machine and hook it up to an Imax projector and use it when theres a full moon for a screen.
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yeah those speakers - logitek - very bad
but lots of monitors have onboard speakers and its just some **** feature that no one cares about or takes seriously as an audio option like the speakers in laptops so just ignore onbord speakers they dont cost much to be there and should not effect the monitor you decide to buy at all if they are there or not there
i got the asus 120 htz 23inch and i like it so id assume the 27 inch would be as good. get the 600 monitor and spend the rest on a good sound set up - how should anyone go about this?
go to a real hi fi shop (not computer shop) and ask for a 900 system that is an external DAC, a small integrated amp and a set of speakers - tell the shop guy u expect free hook up wire to get it all going and say you going to use your computer as source - if the shop guy is like "wtf use a computer as source??" then just walk out and go to the next store as the shop is noob
The DAC should use USB from your PC and then RCA to the amp and the amp doesnt have to be huge/ powerful as the speakers dont have to be huge as they are on the desk and not half way across the room - mini monitors or studio speakers will be fine sometimes they are known as "bookshelves" speakers as they are placed on a bookself / mantel place etc
after looking at 2 or 3 shops and hearing the systems in each one u should have a great idea of what u can get for 900 bucks - buy the best one but make sure u google all the gear the shop recommended (u can ask for a "system discount" as ur buying 3 things but dont xpect more then maybe 10% tops and be sus if the sales guy offer u a huge discount and the gear isnt superseded or something) and dont forget to bring a usb stick or external HDD with some of your own music (no mp3s!) so you know what the system sounds like playing what you will be listening to at home
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Yeah I think I'll go with that asus moni. I kinda already knew you'd be the guy to ask about audio, thanks for that. I kinda planned to spend around 3k for moni and audio over the next couple of months so I'll have more like 2k for audio and change for an ssd. Hey this thread is starting to lack some picture again care to throw one up rulez ?
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fencer wrote: Yeah the third one is artifacting so its either try the cook fix or bin, but these ones are ok by themselves but try and SLI and the one next to the PS gets hot and crashes. I think your right, with the overheat and I've damaged them probably when I ran them in Tri. I actually got the third for free when I found a guy selling them ages ago but it never really paid off as it didn't scale well enough to warrant the heat, power or minimal frame rate gains. Two cards works well but three in the 200 series isn't worth the hassle. Might try to mod the case and add a fan on the side panel. Xmas job ftw hopefully Get a bigger case and/or try water cooling its a pain in the **** but well worthwhile, blow holes and extra fans do **** all unless 2-5 degrees is all your after. If you want an easy fix just get a single 6xx series card.
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Yeah case sounds like a plan. That way I can use it for the next build I do in 2013. I like the Corsair Obsidian 550D I got my daughter so I might grab another of those unless there's a better alternative people like.
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samsung 3d is ghey
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Circa wrote: samsung 3d is ghey +1
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Same with LG 3d, it's flat as ****.
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It's all good went with the Asus ,hope its not gay. +1 on lg 3d looking **** I did see them in acouple of the shops and just thought something looked off about them, also was shown an acer one and just told the sales guy the colours looked **** and I wasn't looking for a cheap moni.
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nice and dont forget to set it at 120htz in the OS settings / nvidia control panel as its usually just 60 by default
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lol, yeah when a mate got his he was playing for a while at 60hz and saying how smooth it is. Then realized a couple days latter it wasnt even set at 120hz.
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Yeah I know that from the moni I have now, which actually didn't have a dual dvi cord with it wich sucked because I had to buy one.
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nice, like the wc on the new rig, dafuq are those coolers on the old rigs cards?
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Nice setup madmic.
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Audi wrote: lol, yeah when a mate got his he was playing for a while at 60hz and saying how smooth it is. Then realized a couple days latter it wasnt even set at 120hz. Probably just the pixel refresh and lack of ghosting when compared to most screens a few years ago. I just got 3 S27DA750D panels, upgrading from a single U2410 wide gamut. Can only run one panel at the moment through HDMI (60hz, I know) until my new cards arrive. It still feels 'faster', but it's the panel's refresh speed that I'm noticing. But I did put a panel on an ATI 5750 with DP, damn that **** is nice. Not a decent enough card to run games at 120fps though. +1 3D on these is crap, but not a concern for me, and that's only using the 2D > 3D built into the panel. I don't know if TriDef or the NV Vision hack makes it any better, but my left eye became blurry after watching just one benchmark in 3D, and I didn't feel too good for about 20 mins. Also, the colours are comparably bad to the U2410, but that's something I'll tune to a degree over time, and just swallow the rest. ($399 per panel in Aus, good deal.)
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3d conversion is terrible, compared to tridef it would be like night and day. What cards have you ordered? If you're still planning to claim the 3dmark11 title i'd hazard a guess at 3x 7970's or 680s.
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Yeah once I move house and get everything set up I'll muck around with the software side of 3D. Was mainly after them for the 120hz 2D. Tri EVGA 680 4GB "reference.."  . Big water setup, STH10 case with plenty of room. I saw you have the ...23? inch Asus 120's. Was gonna get some of them but they weren't on a hectic special like the sammies. NVV2 would have been nice, but in 2D, most of the 120hz panels all seem quite the same to me after trying them all in the flesh.
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Nah I have 3 Asus VG278H 3d vision 2 monitors. ph33x wrote: Tri EVGA 680 4GB "reference.."  . Big water setup, STH10 case with plenty of room. I'm sure Joe looks forward to a bit of competition. What CPU you gonna be running? Case is massive, If I ever decide to water cool I'd do it in a large case like that. Just so much room to set **** up how you want.
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There will be competition Joe, I hope you like to clock your system.  Yeah starting with 2x quad 140mm rads. 3930k on R4E, Trident 2400 CL9 - I'll do a writeup with pics once it's done, don't expect the cards till Late nov (**** you amazon, but thanks for the cheap prices). Be aware though, the case + 2 rad mounts and 5 flexbay fan holders is $1k inc postage.. It's a painful purchase but it will last many years. What CPU's you guys using?
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2600k @ 4.7 27/7 on air, I cant bring myself to upgrade cpu yet.
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Using a ToughPower 1200 from a few years ago and it's only got 2 sets of PCI-e. I feel dirty using the Molex power.  Dual rail too so will have to look into how they balance the 12v. Cut to length + sleeve job, box pride neggeh. Do you actually play anything mostly in 3D?
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Yeah I play loads in 3d. Playing through Borderlands 2 in surround 3d currently. Just finished Trine 2 in 3d surround about a week ago. Played Arkham City, Max Payne 3 and loads of racing games in 3d exclusively. Only games I don't play so much in 3d are MP games, thou I was playing bf3 in 3d last night. However its not for everyone, but that 3d converted **** you've seen is terrible. I think you'll find 3d on your system will be much dimmer than on the new 3d vision 2 monitors. IMO I believe a lot of people that don't like 3d havent seen it setup properly or are not interested in learning how to setup it up. Or of course they can't afford the GPU grunt. When 3d is setup correctly it's spectacular.
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I have orderd a Gtx690, it will be watercooled.
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I was going to go for twin 690's but they are only 2gb per chip. Some games are touching on that now using 3D/Surround.
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Yeah, it's ok if you're just running 2 680's like me because to get the 70+ fps in bf3 on 3 monitors on ultra I have to turn down the AA. So I am usually well under the 2000mb vram limit. But with 3 or 4 cards you wouldn't need to turn the aa down so you'd be hitting the max vram. Of course you could always turn anti aliasing down/off but when you've out layed $1500-$2000+ just on gpu's thats a bitter pill to swallow.
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Nah I'll just be runnin one screen, so the 4000mb vram will be good, me two gtx590 = 3000mb vram give or take and they're pretty good.I've got a waterblock and backing plate coming with them, be interesting to see what clocks I get out of it. 3D is alot better than I expected.
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Nings just making sure you are aware that a SLI configuration with 2GB of vram per GPU doesn't mean you have 4GB of vram. You only have 2GB of vram for processing purposes as each GPU works on a frame independently. Even though SLI/Crossfire cards are advertised as having 4GB/6GB/etc of vram only half of that exists in terms of processing ability.
Vram listing is the biggest con for SLI/crossfire cards. True they technically have the vram listed but the vram is not a shared resource (and neither are the GPUs).
Perhaps one day they will do away with SLI/crossfire cards and build monstrously large GPUs (think of a GPU which was physically twice the size - the socket fitting is twice the size) which would technically work better than SLI/crossfire however are not as economically viable.
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Nings turn down your contrast in 3d mode to around 55 if you notice any cross talk. What games you tested in 3d? Trine 1/2 are must plays. As is Arkham city and max payne 3. Also don't forget to adjust the convergence. This is the trick to making 3d look stupendous. You will need to tick a box to allow advanced settings in nVidia control panel to get access to the convergence control.
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Gung-ho wrote: Nings just making sure you are aware that a SLI configuration with 2GB of vram per GPU doesn't mean you have 4GB of vram. You only have 2GB of vram for processing purposes as each GPU works on a frame independently. Even though SLI/Crossfire cards are advertised as having 4GB/6GB/etc of vram only half of that exists in terms of processing ability.
Vram listing is the biggest con for SLI/crossfire cards. True they technically have the vram listed but the vram is not a shared resource (and neither are the GPUs).
Perhaps one day they will do away with SLI/crossfire cards and build monstrously large GPUs (think of a GPU which was physically twice the size - the socket fitting is twice the size) which would technically work better than SLI/crossfire however are not as economically viable. I should have looked into that a bit more and I never thought I'd buy a dual GPU card but **** happens, if it's not as good as it should be I'll **** it off real quick, or if I'm feeling particularly rich I'll buy another.
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Audi wrote: Nings turn down your contrast in 3d mode to around 55 if you notice any cross talk. What games you tested in 3d? Trine 1/2 are must plays. As is Arkham city and max payne 3. Also don't forget to adjust the convergence. This is the trick to making 3d look stupendous. You will need to tick a box to allow advanced settings in nVidia control panel to get access to the convergence control. I've only gotten around to testing metro2033 (hence "better than I tought") and crysis2 (meh) 3d, max payne3,m I'll try it now and Arkham city, will need reinstall but I'll get to it.
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Only issue I know of with max Payne is you need to re adjust the convergence after each chapter.
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Very nice, but why are you running 2 sli bridges? What speed are ya running them at? I see they run 8+6pin they good overclockers? They take up 3 slots yeah, Asus directCu II 680 top? What temps do you get in bf3?
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Audi wrote: Very nice, but why are you running 2 sli bridges? What speed are ya running them at? I see they run 8+6pin they good overclockers? They take up 3 slots yeah, Asus directCu II 680 top? What temps do you get in bf3? Purely aesthetic, from what I’ve read it makes no difference either way? They are excellent overclockers. Yup top edition. Stays pretty much below 55c at full load (BF3 ultra settings). The cooler does an amazing job so iam more than happy to give up those extra slots. Best thing is, it’s quite as a humming bird. 
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Whats your max stable overclock?
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1250 on the gpu clock so far, apparently they can go higher (up to 1400mhz!) See this review for the details http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2065/12/
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