Some nice scores. What happened to mine. I should be on there somewhere.

P14496 – i7980x @ 4.48GHz – Dual ATI 5970 @ 900/1200Mhz

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/2017891?show_ads=true&page=%252F3dm11%252F2017891%253Fkey%253D2gYw_V-Xp_3e-t1xbuxQeQ

Oh yes they run soooo much better, plus im loving the quad core and ssd

Mcloving it.

Now that's made a difference Rushy, congrats mate!

Sorry Bait, i have to make a useless post, cause i can't stop laughing.

I am pretty unhealthy, i smoke 2 packets a day. It is the lack of catecholamines. lol.

I am usually a pretty happy person, at least i am lucky in that respect.

Nice score Rushy.

This is a fine example of how inept these PC shoe shoppers are when it comes to hardware reccomendations. The Asus 670 is OC'ed allowing a frame rate equal to that of a stock 680, and for it to remain OC'ed with out bursting into flames and the GPU dropping through your case onto the floor and setting fire to your house, superior cooling has to be installed onto the card itself. Which means technically speaking "that wack **** cooler gives you extra frames.".

Instead of buying real PC brands these clowns by marked down brands off the interwebs murchants and then spend 300 dollars on case cooling which I dont have to do becuase I buy Asus, a No.1 Pc brand all over the world.

Don't worry Rushy we'll look after you. Nice score by the way.

Pay no attention to the guy who's computer comes in the bottom 25% of systems running the same configuration, even though his card is overclocked. - Pay no attention to the guy who thinks cooling a card by blowing warm air into the case and 'not needing case cooling' is how it's done. - Pay no attention to the guy who thinks 3DMarks don't generally correlate to videogame performance.

Just focus on the words of wisdom from the guys who have essentially professional experience building multiple high grade systems over a period of up to 15 years. They know what they are talking about, without getting caught up in sales catch-phrases and specs written on boxes.

Any person who thinks EVGA is a fail brand then buys a little 670 for the price of the big bad 4GB 680 is a fruitcake. Guy thinks thread is **** but can't withhold himself from posting in it. He's gone full retard.

Most people in IT and computing are the same. It is pretty normal in IT industries.

IT people, have no idea, about other people. It is how the brain works.

You would never send a programmer down to reception to great people, the customers would run away screaming. IT people are interested in servers, hardware and such things.

Lets hope for some better games, because online gaming does not work without people.

The people with personality are usually not computer literate.




The people that use this forum "are" computer literate. Judging from the quality of postings, i suspect they are all very similar.
Maybe some ritalin would help.

It is my and Chucky's secret weapon.

My ADHD is pretty severe. Even with the medication i am not very good at the right brain stuff. Not spiritual yet.
I don't go to yoga parties, meditiate and attend spiritual meals and rituals. lol.

JUst being a stirrer.

It seems some vagrants have moved into this thread and have begun to stink the place up.

Screwing **** together is so sophisticated, I dont think they even teach building PC's out of public schools anymore, it comes under a grade 10 computer class in Austrlian public schools doesnt it?

You get more desperate as you go on, if you place your hand at the back of the computer you can feel all the hot air being blasted out the back vent where the HDMI ports are. It doesnt take a very powerful mind to place a few basic case fans to initiate air flow.

Come on kids, please take your little feud elsewhere, cheers.

I wouldn't know, way past my time champ. I learnt when nobody was teaching it at school. But don't place any weight on how easy it is, because you fail at it. You make your first post, someone gives you some advice, then you flame them and the thread like a baby. You tell someone that upgrading is a waste and won't affect his games, well here he is with his upgrade, making a huge difference to his games. Not only are you wrong, but your advice is counterproductive and incompetent. You should make it sound really hard and you might get away with your stupidity and arrogance. That or just stop breathing.


Nah **** that, who needs case cooling, you have an ASUS. "...case cooling which I dont have to do becuase I buy Asus..." - Derp.

The big boys run custom cooling because they are running their parts way out of spec, which requires bigger cooling solutions, it's not rocket science. Your manufacturers OC card doesn't need custom cooling, **** it's not even benching the numbers it's supposed to. Manufacturers downclock more like it. Not that I have an issue with ASUS gear either, I've been using Rampage mobo's since they first came out, one of the best mobos. But if you want the best cards, get something Xeper doesn't have because his is an under-performer.

Ph33x by the time yourPC is built Joe will have pretty much the same setup. He's just orders a couple g's worth of water cooling gear. He's gonna be slamming it in to a 900D.
Mean while Xepers setting the world on fire with his factory overclocked GTX 670.

I thought ph33x's new rig was gonna be cool, untill I realised he can't seem to build it.

Nice, I was just thinking about that while I was taking a crap. I made 20,450 stock, so Joe should upgrade his CPU to Sandy-E while he's at it then it's on! 900D looks nice, I assume you can remove the lower bays and add full length rads to it?

It'd be done by now if the reservoir wasn't 10mm too tall. Needed more stuff and some places didn't open till this week.

Yeah he's getting Sandy-E.

A good time to practice your fabrication skills.

Yeah definetly going SBE not sure yet which one, probably the 3930k but if I cant get one then 3970X if their in stock. Thats not happening until march but, and yeah the 900D will fit 2 x 480s 1 x 240 and 1 x 120 rad if you load it up. Im just going for a 480 on top and the same down the bottom both in push pull and if there's no news about the GTX 780 by then, Im putting blocks on these 680s. Cant wait I'm itchin to build a new monster.

How is CPUJoe? I heard he has cancer.

You are so wrong that it looks like you are lying on purpose.

Fabricate a tapping on top of a res tube? Yeah.


I guess in March you can try and beat me - I looked at plenty of data on push-pull and it didn't seem to make a big enough difference to warrant the extra gear. But hey, I didn't need 2 x 560's either, so do as you want. - A single SR-1 480 is good for 1800W of thermal energy, and the more you add will lower your delta temps.

Fix the case to make it fix. Come on mate, it's taking you way too long.

The pain must be unbearable.

I know using your hands and developing/using actual skills is beyond some people. You aren't the first person to not use their initiative, and most certainly not the last.

Although developing good interpersonal skills, such as grammar and proper use of the English language is apparently beyond some people.

Indeed it is. It must be killing you, right?

Not really, I skip them posts.

It isn't not never wouldn't killing you though, is it?

I don't know why you'd want to bore a 75mm hole into a $1,000 case to suit only one build when you can get a part which fits better. This case will be used for the next 10 years with many setups which will differ from the last.

Not like it's a murderbox or anything.

More like you don't actually own the case so you don't want to damage it. You probably work in a **** computer shop and the boss said you could borrow things if you don't break them.

You two boys sound like you have a controlling father.

Ask him to buy you something nice every now and then, it helps with the healing.

You've both been proven dumb as bat **** in here, why fester about it? qq

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

Just posted in the Vantage thread, now sharing this score too.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5550588
P11632 - i7 3930k@4.7GHz, ASUS GTX680 DirectCU II TOP 2GB, 16GB DDR31600 RAM

3DMark Score - 11632 3DMarks
Graphics Score - 11537
Physics Score - 14743
Combined Score - 9272
Graphics Test 1 - 55.6 FPS
Graphics Test 2 - 53.82 FPS
Graphics Test 3 - 72.14 FPS
Graphics Test 4 - 34.12 FPS
Physics Test - 46.8 FPS
Combined Test - 43.13 FPS

Nobody likes me anymore, after bf3.

Where is my score Bait?

Gone bro, let it go.

Circa when ya gonna run a sneaky overclock ya scuff?

Congrats on the new card R_Type, that was a hell of jump up the ladder!

Johnny if you think I'm ignoring you...well you would be correct and the only way for me to see your post is if I log out or remove you from my ignore list(not likely lol).

After seeing what you've posted in this thread about brain issues and ****, along with the wonderful PM you sent and then disable your pm's so I couldn't respond...I've decided to reject your score based on your attitude.

I've been lurking on the net for nearly 20 years and not once have I put anybody on an ignore list, so take solace in knowing you're special lol.

Good on ya Bait.

NEVAR AUDIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!

Nah, when there's a game that requires me to OC!

Sorry Pheex I think you misunderstand me, I'm not out there to beat you, I actually just enjoy building PCs and I like the 900D but it doesn't come out till late Feb. Post a few pics of your rig dude Id love to take a look, did you end up going with Caselabs?

Thread about 3dmark scores.
Ego tripping about apparent intelligence levels in this thread.
Fail achieved.

I'm in it for the friendly competition, being one of the reasons people compare scores, points, lap times, etc. I also enjoy building PCs, but since we're possibly going to have identical systems, throw some spice into it Joe! Yeah went with the STH-10, it's a behemoth, larger than what I need for now, but all the space will come in handy down the track, might dual loop. What kind of rads are you going to use? I'm not going to mod the BIOS on the cards, just gonna work with that I have. The mobo has 24pin + 8pin + 6pin + 4pin ATX, power delivery won't be a problem.




Exactly, leave so we can remove the word apparent.
2 mad brothers.
Fin.

Pheex, at this stage I'll probably go with two Hardware labs GTX480 rads. What fans are you using in your build? At the moment I'm using Swiftech helix 120s and their great but I want all black for the new build. How much did you end up spending on WC components? And did you go with a single or dual loop?

I went with BitFenix fans because they are relatively cheap at $17 a fan. These are 140mm PWM units, I wanted PWM so I can control all 8 fans together off the mobo using a profile, instead of using linear voltage pots. You could get non 120mm LED PWM fans for about $12 or so, depends how you want to run them to whether you want PWM or not. I can't remember the static pressure and CFM, but it was a reasonable mid-level. I'll check for you when I get home.

You'll find with 2x480's it doesn't matter too much about fan specifications, you'll be getting 5 degree delta temps which is very good. One thing I noted though, the Fenix fans are quiet, even the 120mm fans running at 12V were quiet. - I'd also recommend going for 6-12FPI rads for use with low RPM fans for noise. The 20-30FPI rads only beat the 6-12FPI rads when you run the fans at high RPM.

Single loop for now, if I go dual I'll add a second pump for the extra loop. I've had to run my loop backwards because of the way I've plumbed the hose. CPU blocks are usually directional, but everything else is not, and it should affect temps too much, the whole circuit should balance out the same.

Sorry Bait, should this be in the PC Rig thread?

$17 is pretty good, I want some good static pressure like Corsair SP120s but don't want to pay $25 a piece considering Ill be buying 16 of them. Swiftech Helix 120s are great and they are $12 I think but like I said I'm a bit of a stickler for aesthetics and they only come in white. I've actually got two black Bitfenix spectre pwm case fans and they are great, very quiet, just not sure whether they are optimised for static pressure.
I'm going to go dual loop straight away so I don't have to pull it apart later to reconfigure things. What board are you using?

Exactly. You don't think about the little things like fans until you price up so many. Keep in mind you could set up a switched circuit for LED fans, giving you black, or colour, depending on your style. I wanted a semi-factory look, I chose black hose, black nickel fittings, etc, didn't want all clear with UV dyes or anything. (FYI dyes, coolants, etc are crap. Get pure distilled water, either PTNuke or Liquid Utopia then add a Silver Coil Killer. Only ammonia can conduct heat better than distilled water, anything else you add to it lowers it's thermal conductivity.

ASUS Rampage 4 Extreme board, hence the red theme.

Because rads are so much higher flow than the blocks, you could also go dual pump, dual loop, but the 2 loops combinebefore the first rad, then series into the next, then into the res. From the res you split it back into 2 loops before the pumps. This would bring your GPU temps down a tad, and CPU temps up a tad. I'm more concerned with keeping the GPU's as cool as possible.

If you're not buying today, allow me to get the Fenix fan stats this arvo for you.

The loop was surprisingly quick to get hooked up. A bit of in and out with the 3 cards as a pack to work out some exact lengths. A bit fiddly as they are bolted together with the SLI flow bridge. Most of my time has been spent on wiring, didn't want excess unbraided cable floating around.

Okay, I have 2 types here, 140mm PWM for the rads, and general 120mm for case venting. Both are BitFenix Spectre LED Series.

140mm: (PWM)
Voltage: 12V (As you'd know, being PWM)
Current: 0.26A (About 3.1 watts)
Speed: 700-1800RPM
Air Flow: 56.1CFM
Static Pres: 2.14mmH2O
Noise 24.2dB

The LED's in this fan cannot be switched unless you mod each fan's motor PCB. Driving them would be an issue because if you power an LED without a choke or resistor, you'll pop every LED very fast. So if you go with these, choose LED or non-LED in your original design. SP and AF are probably measured at max revs too. Hope that helps. They aren't as ugly as normal LED fans, look at some pics, and the transparent black plastic is ace.

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120mm: (Non-PWM)
Voltage: 10.8-13.2V (I havent tried them on linear voltage pots yet, will know how this works out by this weekend.)
Current: 0.16A (About 2 watts)
Speed: 1000RPM
Air Flow: 43.5CFM
Static Pres: 0.62mmH2O
Noise: <20dB (They are damn quiet even at 12V)

If you use voltage pots to adjust the speed on the 120mm standards, it will affect the brightness of the LED's if you choose to use them. These can be switched off with a loop coming out of the side of the fan, and comes with an extension cable (giving you free plugs if you mod your wiring) so you can switch them from a drive bay or w/e. They are quiet, but that's probably due to low static pressure.

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There are also Spectre Pro versions offering an uglier looking fan with higher flow/pressure per rev.

Thanks for that info, I've got two of these I'm using as side intake fans but the static pressure is not great.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?mai ... s_id=20698
I actually hit up my PC store today to see what the best price they can do me on 16 of the Corsair SP120 quiet series, if I can get them for less than $20 each I might grab em. They seem pretty keen to help me so I should here back tomorrow.
$$ really start to add up quickly when your watercooling, I mean I priced three heatkiller GPU blocks today with backplates and it came to close to $500 and I haven't bought any fittings yet. What GPU blocks are you using?

Heh, Heatkiller blocks, including CPU. EK block for the mobo (pure copper, no nickel) I'm using XSPC compression fittings with 3/8-5/8" Primachill hose. I got the fittings from performancepcs.com because PCCG never seem to stock them, and you'll find you need plenty. Most fittings are like $15-20 each but these are like $4 each, black nickel, looks nice.

What mobo are you running, how many PWM fan ports does it have? Can it run custom profiles?

Yeah my initial expectation for the cost of the system blew way out with the water cooling. It will keep you from upgrading your cards too unless we're lucky enough that future cards share the same shape. Kinda wish they did.