Hey all,

Just thought I'd drop by and ask if GameArena was interested in getting a DayZ server up?
If you're not familiar with DayZ, it's a modification for ArmA 2 Combined Operations that transforms the main island in the game to a Zombie Apocalypse.
It's taken the gaming world by storm as I'm sure you've all seen via the Steam sales with ArmA 2 Combined Operations hovering around the top 5 for the past few weeks reaching number one when there were no crazy sales.

For more info, have a look here; http://www.dayzmod.com

If you are interested, aimed at GameArena staff, please drop me an email; dayzmatt@gmail.com or post here and I can help you get one up. Games.on.net currently have two up and they're full a lot! At the moment now, 8pm on a Monday night, all 100 slots are filled, along with all the other ANZ servers, so Australia is desperate to get some more up if you're willing to lend a hand!

Look forward to hearing from you,
Matt "Antipop" Hurley
DayZ Server Administrator
http://www.dayzmod.com
dayzmatt@gmail.com // Skype: theantipop91

I emailed the DayZ team about 2 weeks ago to see if we can do something here and never heard back after a first response. It's definitely something we want to do, but the requirement to let third parties access our servers is not something we can do. I have suggested alternatives and would love to discuss further.

I would be able to help you set it up, and I will not require RDP information.
The big dayz email gets hundreds of emails a day, so it's hard to keep track. Just email me and I can help get you sorted.

Matt

Maaan I need to get ArmA2 and OA installed...

Antipop: what is your connection with the DayZ mod?

As Trog said we can't allow others to have access to our servers, which seems to be a requirement for hosting the mod. If you can arrange to have that requirement waived somehow ... or even better have whoever in the team was dealing with Trog to email him back.

accidently a whole 2.6gb, two days in to my 15gb monthly usage playing DayZ. So a GameArena server would be great for myself and others stuck on **** usage plans (wireless is all I can get, before anyone suggests I'm an idiot and can't look into other plans).

Malthius,
I'm a developer with them as well as a Server administrator.
I no longer require RDP access to setup a server, therefore you're in the clear there. Please drop me an email; dayzmatt@gmail.com with Gamearena in the title (so I can't miss it ) and we can go from there!

Matt

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Hi GameArena

Lack of Arma servers has been irritating would LOVE to see servers for Arma, Arma2, Iron Front, DayZ mod.

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there are only 130 1.7.1.2 slots and they're always full.

also, if you can run servers, can you run some that require the beta patch and some that are 12 hours offset so we can play at night but its daytime server side. does that make sense?

Sent another email off to the devs today, asking for some concessions so that we can run servers.

I'd be happy to run a few with different time offsets. Running different versions might be another thing, but of course I'll consider it if it is important and possible / permitted.

cool. i meant the arma 2 beta patches, they're recommended by the dayz team.

if this happens i will play
make it so number 1

The patches are only 8mb in size.

They should also be available locally on GA servers, making sure everything is localised from AusGamers.

Anyone who is checking this for updates - feel free to go nag the DayZ devs about letting us run some servers.

Hey all,
I couldn't log back into my 'antipop' account. Forgot the email to it.

Anyway, it's me again. I'll be happy to try and get your servers sorted ASAP. Please add me on skype; theantipop91 and I can get you guys sorted.

Matt

Coolies, I got your email as well. Looks like we can do something

any update on this sick of laggy servers

doit

Currently have no timeline, but it is in the works so stay tuned!

Does it really take the largest ISP in Australia this long to setup a server or two ?

Even iprimus has ipgn servers setup and have so for so long why do you guys have such retarded methods of getting approval and then taking months to get some setup ? makes no sense to me at all

I love how not only does telstra customer service suck there gaming department also sucks and fails at setting up anything in a good time frame and always seem to get outdone by iprimus / iinet which leaves me dumbfounded

I'm sorry you believe it is taking so long, but there are just certain things that need to be done before we can officially launch servers. We are doing everything we can, and hopefully we can get something soon.

I don't believe it's taking to long i know it is 54 days and counting to get a server going i could hire my own server set it up within 3 hrs so explain how i believe its taking to long and enlighten me on how it takes almost 2 months or more to do this while iprimus has managed to accomplish the exact same in a shorter time period ?




You need to keep everything official on a game that has just gone from alpha testing to beta ? your not setting up servers for a game that has been released people want to play the game test it find bugs and not have to worry about connection issues or lag because the largest isp in australia can't sort out a server or two and are getting out done almost every time by other smaller isps ?



Be glad ? like your doing us a favour or something ? we pay a premium for telstra internet and that comes with services such as game arena your not doing me or anyone else a favour your doing your job so why don't you work on doing that abit better

Better yet here's the IPGN feed back email feedback@ipgn.com.au why don't you email them and ask them how they have managed to setup 5 or more servers within a few days perhaps you can get some productivity tips from them instead of telling me to be glad your doing your job

Peace

The delay was caused by certain restrictions we have and certain unusual demands the DayZ team made of people hosting their servers. The actual hosting process isn't a problem, getting everything signed off was.

The DayZ team has removed the unusual demands, so we are making progress.

I understand that as this seems to be the problem every time gamearena attempts to setup anything your the reason there isn't any wow servers here as well because you want everything your way or the high way

Why should a game company or game team have to have all data on your server and not on there's when all the other isp's as far as im aware don't have this issue ? that's what the biggest problem is you have your expectations to high and your not willing to give and take or meet anyone halfway

It's funny how everyone else gets servers up and running in a matter of days and meanwhile you guys are having a ***** fight with who ever offered to run servers for you over who's gonna have the data where and how if you don't get your own way then tough luck for us which is crap

Can you please supply me an email so i can make a complaint on the process you have to take just to get a server going cause im sure it's not your fault and its just some stupid rule or setup made by some guy who doesen't even understand anything

Get your head out of your ***, they *are* doing you a favour. I'm pretty sure when you signed your contract with bigpond there wasn't any clause on bigpond's behalf obligating them to provide servers for you for games which didn't even exist yet. They provide you with an internet connection. You pay for this connection. If they take the money you give them and choose to spend it on providing ancillary services for *you*, then you should be **** grateful, rather than being an entitled little ***** about it.

I look forward to logging into DayZ Gamearena servers so I have an opportunity to put you back on the coast.

That's quite a distance to look forward to lol if your lucky they might be "official" a few months after day z is released "official" lmao

Enjoy

If you really want to make a complaint about the process Vitale, let me know, but it certainly won't make any difference. The DayZ team wanted RDP access to the host for their mod - they wanted to be able to log into the server desktop directly. That is insane.

There is no way we are going to give any mod author that level of access. EA don't have that level of access to our BF3 servers. They wouldn't ask for it, and we wouldn't give it to them.

DayZ's policies have changed, so we'll be able to get some servers up soon.

Edit: I don't know if other providers in Australia just ignored the requirement for remote access, if they negotiated around it, or if they provided it. I certainly could have ignored the requirement and whacked up some servers. I did try to negotiate around it, but before that process finished they changed the policy for everyone. I tend to go by the book on all of these things, which benefits everyone - game developers (and mod developers) know that they can trust us, which gives us access to some really cool things that we pass on to you. If the cost of that is not hosting DayZ for a while, that's the cost we gladly pay.

Ok im goinng to explain my problem so you don't think im just giving you **** for no reason because that is not my intention

The problem i have is the process of getting servers up via game arena take 100x longer than other isp's which for the life of me i cannot understand i would of thought telstra which is the biggest of them all would have enough funds and the department capable of being the one's ahead of everyone else but that does not seem to be the case it seems iprimus or iinet are always beating you guys to all of the servers

Now i want to know why or how these other isp's are able to do exactly the same as what your required to do in a few days compared to your near 2 months ? if there is some sort of restriction forced onto you that makes it difficult yes i would like to make a complaint to eliminate the restrcitions so it makes you streamline the process and keep up with other isp's

On the other hand if im not mistaken you say game companies can trust you so what's stopping you trusting bigger game companies if they do have certain terms for you to setup servers such as blizzard wanting to setup servers here and if im not mistaken they were knocked back because of cost and because they couldnt agree on terms with Telstra

Another example is hon ipgn has servers for hon yet gamearena don't because you wouldn't agree on the terms letting them have access or w/e technical thing it was

I would happily trust S2,EA,Blizzard with having access to servers im on as for a mod like day z i can understand its small not well known and i don't understand what the rdp access to desktop means exactly but ill trust your judgement on that

Hope that clears it up and you can see what kind of point im trying to make and thanks for the detailed reply its certainly nice to know you take people's problems serious

Any update on the progress on this?

Don't get your hopes up maybe when games released retail you might seem some for now you need to stick with the 10 or so aussie servers that are usually 50/50 and 40/40

I hope they ban you from the servers when they go live for being a massive ****.

First your assuming there will be servers

Second your assuming they will go live

Thirdly there will probably be some other flavour of the month game by time there are servers hopefully im proven wrong

What is going on GA? on the Dayz forum there are supposedly GA reps in there saying they have been trying to get the Dayz team to talk to them but then there are posts there saying that the GA guys are not getting back to them so which one is it?

Link me to that?

Still trying to find the one you want so until I do you can chalk it up to being a lying bastard.

This LINKLINK is the one with the GA guys apparently trying to get in touch with the Dayz admins but the thing is, if games.on.net can do it why cant GA?

I personally do not think enough effort is being put in if that is the case.

All **** aside, I would just like to hear from GA wether they intend on setting up servers in the near future, ie before release. It doesnt bother me about the politics of it all, just a simple hopefully a month, maybe 2. I don't expect it to be in concrete, just an estimation made to the best of your knowledge will suffice.
I would prefer to host this game through GA, but there are other companies working on hosting this game in Aus also, so I am seeing who is doing what first, before I commit to whom I will rent a server or 2 off of.

I know about that thread, which you'd probably be able to work out with a few seconds of reading. I'm very interested to see anywhere where the DayZ devs said we didn't get back to them.

I've answered about other providers above - again, just a little reading. I'll quote myself:

discryptor: We are working on public server hosting. Once that is done we can investigate offering servers for subscriptions, but I can't give any further information - costs, timeframes etc are all up in the air right now until we can lock down the hardware requirements and the admin overhead involved.

I know this is/has been an annoying ride for some of you, especially when I myself play DayZ quite a lot and it is frustrating trying to get onto the few AU/ANZ/NZ servers. Just be assured we are trying, and we will have more information as we get it.

I don't care about other providers I just want to be able to play on GA servers and want to know why nothing is being done about it or why we are not getting a clear answer as to why there is not one yet.

Again I will try and find the post about no response from game arena and also I will try and find another post which the Dayz team said they no longer require the remote access to the servers so company's are more inclined to host a server.

If you could even supply the public like us with some evidence of you guys trying to get a server I am sure more people on the Dayz forums would be able to get the attention from someone in the Dazy team and maybe help out getting this moved along a bit faster.

We know they no longer require RDP access. I mentioned that above: "I did try to negotiate around it, but before that process finished they changed the policy for everyone."

There is nothing anyone can do to make this move faster. If you are reading the server forums, you'll see that there has been up to a two week wait between applying to host a server and being allocated an ID, and that if you ask about it they send you to the back of the line.

Eorl: You are blunting my sarcasm. v0113y linked me to a forum thread with my name in it, and I'm trying to make fun of him for that.

I don't understand why you would want to make fun of me for trying to figure out what is going on with the whole server hosting issue?

Here you have a person that has always played on game arena servers and enjoys it and wants to also help the rest of the community that complains and asks why GA has no servers up yet.
All I am trying to do is work things out and also answer questions for other people, how are you a staff member?
You shouldn't be using sarcastic measures in your responses and should always act professional.

Why was Eorl able to give us a professional response even if it did not contain a lot of information it still had the fact that he has been in touch with the Dayz team and would be giving us updates as soon as possible.

You are asking questions that I've already answered. I'll ask you to re-read this thread, especially my comments. You'll see that I clearly provided updates whenever I had new information, including this post on the 16th of this month:

I'm making fun of you, and in a very gentle way, for saying this:If you read that thread, you can see that the "GA Guy" is me. I'm using the same name here and there. I'm not calling you names or anything, I just thought it was funny that you linked me to my own post. I'm also a little touchy about the idea that the delay is that I'm not getting back to them, because I've spent over a month begging to be permitted, if they are so kind, to be allowed to allocate thousands of dollars worth of server hardware and thousands of dollars worth of admin time to hosting their mod.

I'll give you the short story and to update other readers

GameArena Admins : Herp derp excuses we arent capable of doing our job herp derp it takes up 6 months to setup a server herp derp up to current date

IPGN : Oh our players wanna play this new game we better setup some servers few days later theres some servers setup

Aus Arma : Keep in mind this is a community based site they run servers purely of donations oh ye lets setup like 10 servers to help out the community keep in mind all these servers are also 50/50 almost 24/7 few days later 10 servers running which is home to like 80% of australian players


Also to note GameArena has 100x more funding than Iprimus/IPGN and definetly more funding than a site that needs community donations to keep servers running


Once again yes i will be a arrogant P**** and say do your god damn job and stop making up bs excuses if all of the above can get servers going don't gime bs reasons and politics on why you can't because we all know its straight bs

/rant

Edit

Must be heaps hard to afford some servers like the below especially being the largest ISP in australia lol talk about a bad company customer support sucks and admins can't setup servers while guys who get donations can so great


Hardware:

gs1.ausarma.org (ANZ1, ANZ2)
E3 1240 @ 3.3GHz
8GB RAM
100Mbps (5:1 ratio)

gs2.ausarma.org (ANZ3, ANZ4)
E3 1240 @ 3.3GHz
8GB RAM
100Mbps (5:1 ratio)

8,000 GB combined data allowance per month.

http://dedicatedgaming.com.au/

Vitale: I told you why we didn't have servers up. It has nothing to do with resources. If you are going to ignore me, I guess there is no point in replying to your posts anymore. If you have any questions that I've not already answered, let me know.

You stated that the servers aren't up because of RDP access which was removed

The dayz guy anti pop came here and contacted you first gave you his skype details to organise the servers he also said "Anyway, it's me again. I'll be happy to try and get your servers sorted ASAP. Please add me on skype; theantipop91 and I can get you guys sorted."


You then said "Coolies, I got your email as well. Looks like we can do something"

Then we get this from some other random i believe is an admin "Currently have no timeline, but it is in the works so stay tuned!"

Ok so whats the go why is there no timeline you've contacted guy the rdp access is gone whats holding you back now ?

Then that random eorl says "I'm sorry you believe it is taking so long, but there are just certain things that need to be done before we can officially launch servers. Just be glad to know that we are doing something, and hopefully it will be done very soon."


What do you need to do to officialy launch a server wait 6 months lol ? and then tells me to be grateful for what still waiting for servers ye im heaps grateful ?



You then say "The delay was caused by certain restrictions we have and certain unusual demands the DayZ team made of people hosting their servers. The actual hosting process isn't a problem, getting everything signed off was.

The DayZ team has removed the unusual demands, so we are making progress."


What progress you give no details like all the other posts excluding the RDP issue ? what is there to make progress on you setup the servers and off you go ?




You go on further to say "DayZ's policies have changed, so we'll be able to get some servers up soon.

Edit: I don't know if other providers in Australia just ignored the requirement for remote access, if they negotiated around it, or if they provided it. I certainly could have ignored the requirement and whacked up some servers. I did try to negotiate around it, but before that process finished they changed the policy for everyone. I tend to go by the book on all of these things, which benefits everyone - game developers (and mod developers) know that they can trust us, which gives us access to some really cool things that we pass on to you. If the cost of that is not hosting DayZ for a while, that's the cost we gladly pay."



The policies have changed so you can get servers up soon whats you timeframe for soon another 3 months ? give specifics surely your capable of giving an estimate of how long or how capable you are to get everything on track and done ?

Further more perhaps you should directly contact ipgn or ausarma and ask them how they did what your supposed to do in a fraction of the time and im not being a smartass im being dead serious what they had to do and what your being asked to do is identical so there shouldnt be a 3 month gap there's really no excuse


You then say " We are working on public server hosting." AGAIN ? you've said there coming soon and there in the works why do u keep repeating yourself ?

"but I can't give any further information - costs, timeframes etc are all up in the air right now until we can lock down the hardware requirements and the admin overhead involved."

Assuming you mean private servers we don't care we wan't servers we can play on ?





"We know they no longer require RDP access. I mentioned that above: "I did try to negotiate around it, but before that process finished they changed the policy for everyone."

There is nothing anyone can do to make this move faster. If you are reading the server forums, you'll see that there has been up to a two week wait between applying to host a server and being allocated an ID, and that if you ask about it they send you to the back of the line."


Yes we know and you know the rdp access is gone ? its been more than 2 weeks and you still have no results once again go back and check with aus arma or ipgn on how they did what you can't seem to do in a timely manner ?




Since your having problems or a language barrier between what were asking i will put it as blunt as possible

1.What is your progress so far in getting these servers up and running give details and specifics on what you have done

2.When can we expect to be able to play on these servers

3.What is the additional hold up while ipgn and others have servers up and running ?