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Zaraq wrote:
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More than 30km/h but not more than 40km/h over the speed limit:
$513 + 6 demerit points.

Well that sucks. Here's hoping the **** didn't get me.

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:43 pm
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cherocha wrote:
Zaraq wrote:
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More than 30km/h but not more than 40km/h over the speed limit:
$513 + 6 demerit points.

Well that sucks. Here's hoping the **** didn't get me.

come on man dont talk about cops like that you broke the ruls designed to keep people safe including yourself you have to pay the price

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^spoken like a true learner driver.


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**** the police. They put cameras in areas car accidents never occur just for revenue raising. Like the bottoms of hills. Spots where roads drop from 90 to 70 before going back up to 90. They're *****, and they can go **** themselves. I haven't been done for speeding yet, but I did get a $150 fine and lost 3 demerits for running an orange light when they thought I could've stopped. Nob heads, **** em all. *touches wood*

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:06 pm
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bieltanman wrote:
come on man dont talk about cops like that you broke the ruls designed to keep people safe including yourself you have to pay the price

Most of the motorists they get in spots like that aren't intentionally going over the speed limit. It's like how they sometimes set them up behind trees at the bottom of small hills to get people who inadvertently end up floating 10km/h over, on an otherwise entirely safe and accident free stretch of road. It's nothing more than a shameless revenue grab by some lazy **** sitting on the side of the road, stinging people on their way to do real work.

Edit: Tyoson beat me to it again.

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Blatant revenue raising is setting up for Jaywalking and major crosswalks at the end of the year.

Just don't speed. It isn't hard. Or if you do, don't blame the cops - it's pretty pathetic. You sound like the whingers on talk back radio making up excuses for their stupid behavior.

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ROONEY IS %100 CORERECT

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rooney has massive traps bruh what you gonna do?


Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:46 pm
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Bhaa cherocha should be able to ride his bike road rash style and beat the cops with his nun-chucks without any penalty.

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:50 pm
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that gravity can really sneak up on ya!

bet I've had more arrests than most people on this forum combined. Even had to go to court for assaulting police at one stage (but got off. fkn noobs - their own cctv bit them in the ****)!

But even I don't blame coppers or the flasher dudes for my own negligence or laziness.

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Oh well Rooney one more won't hurt, cheroca can just use your name and you can have a huge laugh in the can reflecting on how wonderful your criminal record is compared to every one else.

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no record mate. The point was that I'm aware that coppers can be **** at time just like everyone else.

But far too often people don't learn how easy it is to hurt or kill someone or themselves in a vehicle until they actually do it. Speeding or accelerating at opportune times reflects a dangerous attitude. and yeah I do tend to take it personally.

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I spent 4 years in prison. But I have only been arrested twice.


Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:12 pm
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I spent 4 years in prison. But I have only been arrested twice.

did you really **** i dont belive you can i get a back story what was it like

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It's not as bad as people say, as long as you keep to yourself. Prisons are just sensationalised by films and ****. But I guess it's a bit different in America.


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WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET LOCKED UP i stll dont belive you

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Circa a criminal! i guess you got your butt reamed 4 years man you really did it wrong.
Id imagine i would kill every one in prison iff i got locked up but i guess its not as bad as that since they let you out.

That almost completes the circle of jobs so far we have had a cook a lawyer a chemist an ASIO agent a police man a soldier a musician a teck expert and now a criminal.

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You probably wouldn't last a day in prison Zaraq.
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WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET LOCKED UP i stll dont belive you
I had a girlfriend who used to **** me off, and one day she managed to get me a bit too wound up and I ended up beating the **** out of her.


Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:48 pm
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Circa " probably" is a guess i have watched those prison shows where they interview guys and the key to survival is to get into a gang.

Also better you than me, which is a contradiction on my part since my ambition is to do everything at least once in my life except murder that is against my religion and i have been locked up in the watch house for vagrancy so i guess that counts as going to prison.

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Circa wrote:
You probably wouldn't last a day in prison Zaraq.
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WHAT DID YOU DO TO GET LOCKED UP i stll dont belive you
I had a girlfriend who used to **** me off, and one day she managed to get me a bit too wound up and I ended up beating the **** out of her.

your a woman basher you have no honor did you at least giver a wepon to even up the odds make it a fair fight you sick bastard

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hahahaha bieltanman until you get involved with a female you should stfu up and keep your advice to your self.

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A lot of mobile speed cameras are operated by a private company.
I dont really speed but when I do its always under 5 km over. This is a $150 fine. That is way too much for a slight lapse in concentration and drifting slightly over the limit. Anything under 5 km over should be no more than $50.

Going 20 or 30 km an hour over will be seen as deliberate. On an open road, no other traffic its not dangerous but for me I just cant bring myself throw away hundreds of dollars like that. Somtimes I just really want to plant the foot but I just cant anymore.


Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:03 pm
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Tyoson wrote:
**** the police. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Don't speed don't get fined. If you're too retarded to keep your car under the speed limit just because you are going down hill or your brain is so stunted that it takes you five min to adjust your speed by 20k's, you shouldn't be driving


Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:21 pm
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I never get tired of listening to the excuses that criminals come up with for breaking the law.
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I dont really speed but when I do its always under 5 km over.

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bazuky wrote:
A lot of mobile speed cameras are operated by a private company.
I dont really speed but when I do its always under 5 km over. This is a $150 fine. That is way too much for a slight lapse in concentration and drifting slightly over the limit. Anything under 5 km over should be no more than $50.

Going 20 or 30 km an hour over will be seen as deliberate. On an open road, no other traffic its not dangerous but for me I just cant bring myself throw away hundreds of dollars like that. Somtimes I just really want to plant the foot but I just cant anymore.

In NSW the macquarie (sp) bank has the contract for recording mobile speed cameras. In Dubbo they got in **** for setting up speed cameras on bends. A cop wrote into the local paper saying that anyone who was booked on that corner should take it too court. As you can't get a acurate reading from a car going around a bend. It gives a false high reading. It got to the stage that he would set up the "speed camera ahead" sign about 6 feet back from his car. The local paper got em on that. Some ppl got out of fines because of it. Someone ppl would even put up huge signs warning drivers of the camera. many flash thier headlights to give a warning to other drivers. The state government wanted the bank to also enforce the signs. but it turned out to be against the consitution for a private enterprise or company to enforce any sort of law onto public citizens. Which is why you have the right to tell anyone from the RSPCA to **** off out of your yard. As they are not a goverment org. And have no right to be on your land.


Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:33 pm
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Blatant revenue raising is setting up for Jaywalking and major crosswalks at the end of the year.

Just don't speed. It isn't hard. Or if you do, don't blame the cops - it's pretty pathetic. You sound like the whingers on talk back radio making up excuses for their stupid behavior.

****. They sting people all the time by setting up in low risk spots where the speed limit changes back and forth, and at the base of hills where drivers tend to inadvertently drift over the speed limit. It's also particularly hard to manage a static speed on a bike without glancing at the speedometer every two seconds, which is **** risky with people pulling out in front of you everywhere because you're basically invisible. But yes, I shouldn't have been going as fast as I was, and if I get a ticket I'll own it. That however, doesn't change the fact that it was blatant revenue raising where this particular cop had the camera set up.

Just don't jaywalk. It isn't hard. Or if you do, don't blame the cops - it's pretty pathetic. You sound like the whingers on talk back radio making up excuses for their stupid behavior.

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Feel free to give some input when you upgrade your pushbike to something with an engine.

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WHAT IF I PUT A MOTOR ON MY PUSH BIKE

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Feel free to give some input when you upgrade your pushbike to something with an engine.

WHAT IF I PUT A MOTOR ON MY PUSH BIKE

You get another lock for your chastity belt.

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WHAT IF I PUT A MOTOR ON MY PUSH BIKE

AND RODE IT OFF A CLIFF

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:48 pm
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****. They sting people all the time by setting up in low risk spots where the speed limit changes back and forth, and at the base of hills where drivers tend to inadvertently drift over the speed limit. It's also particularly hard to manage a static speed on a bike without glancing at the speedometer every two seconds, which is **** risky with people pulling out in front of you everywhere because you're basically invisible. But yes, I shouldn't have been going as fast as I was, and if I get a ticket I'll own it. That however, doesn't change the fact that it was blatant revenue raising where this particular cop had the camera set up.


The speed limit changes from time to time and you're expected to stick to it. Busting people for failing to knock 10ks off their speed is not revenue raising - it's enforcing a speed limit change that is there for a reason. For it to be revenue raising, the speed limit changes themselves would have to have been set up just to catch people out.

If you go over the limit going down a hill then you're negligent and deserve to be busted for it. It's probably a good idea for all of us to cop a reminder in the form of a fine to always be mindful of what your car is doing.

If it's so hard to maintain a static speed on a bike, sit 5 ks below the limit, or however much you fluctuate.

It's kinda hard to believe that you're so worried about glancing at the speedo when you think it's alright to go 40ks over the limit.

That's a whole bunch of terrible excuses. If you were really owning it you wouldn't be desperately conjuring up reasons to blame others for your behavior. It's funny how speed traps only exist for those who for some reason think it's alright for them to go over the limit.

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The roads should be a FFA Im sick of this **** all you need is a half decent lawyer to get off every road rule in the book.

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:12 pm
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Rooney wrote:
The speed limit changes from time to time and you're expected to stick to it. Busting people for failing to knock 10ks off their speed is not revenue raising - it's enforcing a speed limit change that is there for a reason. For it to be revenue raising, the speed limit changes themselves would have to have been set up just to catch people out.

Semantics.

The speed limits were set up by whatever set of criteria they come up with (Is area residential? How many lanes? How much traffic? Instances of accidents? Add some variables blah blah etc), but some of the time police exploit that to bust a bunch of people who are otherwise posing little risk by going 5 - 10km/h over the limit. It's revenue raising.

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If you go over the limit going down a hill then you're negligent and deserve to be busted for it. It's probably a good idea for all of us to cop a reminder in the form of a fine to always be mindful of what your car is doing.

Negligent lol. James is driving his car to work. He's on a low traffic road, the next car a few hundred metres in front of him, there are no cars in his rear view mirror. His concentration drifts for a mere moment as thoughts wander towards life stuff. James is doing 87km/h in an 80 zone. A flash comes from behind a bunch of trees and suddenly James is $150 poorer.

That'll **** remind you, James! Maintain 100% concentration at all times solely on the task of monitoring your speed, you **** negligent *****!

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It's kinda hard to believe that you're so worried about glancing at the speedo when you think it's alright to go 40ks over the limit.

That's a whole bunch of terrible excuses. If you were really owning it you wouldn't be desperately conjuring up reasons to blame others for your behavior. It's funny how speed traps only exist for those who for some reason think it's alright for them to go over the limit.

I don't think it's alright to go 40kms over the speed limit. I said as much in the very post you quoted. And in the original post I said that I was going 30kms over, at most, not 40kms.

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Went 7hours inland to a town for a 1 night job at a Rodeo, the other gaurd was driving the car, anyway we are cruising down this huge stretch of clear road but becuase of heat haze the red and blue highway patrol car from Mossman that was sitting a few km's up ahead with a radar gun was not spotted until it was too late. $300 fine for 20km's over the speed limit poor guy lost his entire wage for that job in a matter of minutes.

Another thing these **** do is sit on illegal U-turns during rush hours when the roads are congested and fine everyone trying to dodge time wasting detours. I swear to god they put no U-turn in the most convenient spots for people to do a U-turn.

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There is no exploit or trap unless the posted limits are deliberately misleading. See the signs; do what they say; don't cry and blame someone else when you fail to do either one.

Speed limits are primarily determined by how much new traffic is going to enter a road, but also by the likelyhood that a person or animal will suddenly step onto the road and make traffic swerve to avoid it. And so James was negligent in assuming that a person or animal would never step onto the road and make him instinctively swerve into a tree or oncoming traffic. Statistacally speaking, your extra 7ks is worth a few deaths per year.

You're deliberately dodging points as either a lame trolling attempt, or, more likely, in order to save face and not have to own up to the fact you threw a tantrum over a situation you 100% caused, even if you don't yet have the maturity to admit you caused it.

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Rooney wrote:
There is no exploit or trap unless the posted limits are deliberately misleading. See the signs; do what they say; don't cry and blame someone else when you fail to do either one.

Speed limits are primarily determined by how much new traffic is going to enter a road, but also by the likelyhood that a person or animal will suddenly step onto the road and make traffic swerve to avoid it. And so James was negligent in assuming that a person or animal would never step onto the road and make him instinctively swerve into a tree or oncoming traffic. Statistacally speaking, your extra 7ks is worth a few deaths per year.

You're deliberately dodging points as either a lame trolling attempt, or, more likely, in order to save face and not have to own up to the fact you threw a tantrum over a situation you 100% caused, even if you don't yet have the maturity to admit you caused it.

Speed limit is based on zoning, go read your learners book.

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cherocha wrote:
police exploit that to bust a bunch of people who are otherwise posing little risk by going 5 - 10km/h over the limit.

^ That's not you, because you:

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was in a rush and going 90 - 100km/h in a 70 zone

Then proceed to whine when you 'may' have 'possibly' been caught. Typical hoon mentality.


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It's also particularly hard to manage a static speed on a bike without glancing at the speedometer every two seconds

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You should slow down on your Jetson's bike that sounds the same no matter what speed you ride it. Clearly operating a vehicle with an engine is too difficult, Bielt can suggest a nice trike.

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Rooney wrote:
There is no exploit or trap unless the posted limits are deliberately misleading. See the signs; do what they say; don't cry and blame someone else when you fail to do either one.

Speed limits are primarily determined by how much new traffic is going to enter a road, but also by the likelyhood that a person or animal will suddenly step onto the road and make traffic swerve to avoid it. And so James was negligent in assuming that a person or animal would never step onto the road and make him instinctively swerve into a tree or oncoming traffic. Statistacally speaking, your extra 7ks is worth a few deaths per year.

You're deliberately dodging points as either a lame trolling attempt, or, more likely, in order to save face and not have to own up to the fact you threw a tantrum over a situation you 100% caused, even if you don't yet have the maturity to admit you caused it.

Oh it was a massive tantrum too, the way I casually mentioned the issue of revenue as an afterthought at the end of my post. Feathers were flying.

As I said, you exaggerate when you really don't need to. Talk like a real person, not a condescending ***** with a chip on his shoulder. One ph33x is more than enough.

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One ph33x is more than enough.

Imagine if there were two ph33x's and that they got into an argument with each other.

The internet would explode.

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cherocha wrote:
police exploit that to bust a bunch of people who are otherwise posing little risk by going 5 - 10km/h over the limit.


On a suburban street, that 5-10k extra is the difference between not killing and killing some ones dog.

In a CBD it increases damaging your car and another persons car.

On a barricaded road, you have a better chance of going through the barricade and falling off a ledge into a river or down a cliff face.

During congested traffic in 60/70 zones, that 5-10ks decides what will happen when another idiot driver does something stupid in your path.

On a 100k/hr stretch of road, more speed simply means if you make a small mistake, it will be magnified into a more serious one based on your extra speed.

Good luck surviving on your bike. I wouldn't even risk speeding in a well built, descent sized roadworthy car.

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Oh it was a massive tantrum too, the way I casually mentioned the issue of revenue as an afterthought at the end of my post. Feathers were flying.
It was, and you haven't even been caught yet. I hope you don't since I'd rather a tree catch up with you.

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As I said, you exaggerate when you really don't need to.
As you do, what does an example of someone doing 5-10km/h over the limit have to do with your flagrant breaking of the law? Get over yourself. And saying you can't control the speed of a bike without a constantly looking at the speedometer proves you are either ignorant, deaf, or just plain stupid. Maybe you should go to the bike forums and complain there as well, I'm surprised I don't see a huge qq post on Battlelog about this already actually.

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Talk like a real person, not a condescending ***** with a chip on his shoulder.
Says the guy trying to justify his actions when he knows full well he **** up. Obey the speed limits, you might be able to do as you like in a old dead forum, but when it comes to real life champ, you obey the law or start walking with your pegleg.


Here, plug your earpiece into the computer speakers and listen to this:

All internal combustion engines work and sound the same, except with a bike - having a non-baffled muffler, no catalytic converter etc, simply makes it louder and easier to hear. If every average Joe in their quiet new cars aren't getting done left right and centre, than what gives? What gives when a guy can't reach 30km/h over the limit on a busy commuter route between lights and can't use ignorance as an excuse? And you blame the police? You're a bigger mental case than I initially thought.

It will be great watching you pay off a ~$5000 bike loan while you aren't allowed to ride it.

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Zaraq wrote:
I never get tired of listening to the excuses that criminals come up with for breaking the law.
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I dont really speed but when I do its always under 5 km over.



I am an excellent driver but I agree with chero in that I would prefer to watch the road than my speedo. The only infringments I have recieved since 2000 were 3 fines for 2 or 3 kms over. The last accident I had was when I had my liceance for 3 months, in 1995, thats 18 years ago. I have evaded becoming munched countless times by other drivers and I have saved 3 lives.

Story time.
Coming home from a camping trip going through the city and was travelling about 60 kms along a 4 lane residential road when a bike rider pulled out in front of me, he must have just had a lapse in concentration and not seen me because it was literally a death wish **** up on his part.
I braked hard and turned away from him only to be heading towards his friend on a second bike who was stopped waiting fro the traffic to clear. I turned hard the other way and cleared both of them and ended up facing sideways about 30 meters past both of them so if I had have hit either of them it would have been very messy.

I feel that my split second reactions and the double action nature of the evasion were nothing short of devine. I remember releasing the brake for a nanosecond to get the car to load up the other way to avoid the second bike. The 3rd person I saved was the small pasenger on the second bike, I presume the riders child. I would have like to see the conversation between the rider with the child and the rider that caused a fully laden station wagon to perform a maneuver that Colin McRae would struggle with and narrowly miss them by inches.

Had I been checking my speed at that pricise moment I would have slaughtered some people.


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While i agree with what you're saying. The rider in your vid had bad bike control, went straight thru give ways and over took a truck on a winding round with unbroken lines. He made constant bad gear changes. he was a bad example to use.


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ph33x wrote:
All internal combustion engines work and sound the same, except with a bike - having a non-baffled muffler, no catalytic converter etc, simply makes it louder and easier to hear.
Bikes do have catalytic converters bruh.


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I hope you don't since I'd rather a tree catch up with you.

lol you're an angry little sociopath.

When you can post without sounding like a spiteful child, I'll respond and give you the attention you desperately crave.

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cherocha wrote:
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I hope you don't since I'd rather a tree catch up with you.

lol you're an angry little sociopath.

When you can post without sounding like a spiteful child, I'll respond and give you the attention you desperately crave.


It is not attention ph33x craves, it is ****.

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If the government wanted to improve the road toll they would use the billions they are making in revinue to educate people how to drive properly.

Speeding fines dont actually teach people the importance of responsible driving.


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If the government wanted to improve the road toll they would use the billions they are making in revinue to educate people how to drive properly.

Speeding fines dont actually teach people the importance of responsible driving.


You must be super **** rich. If I was fined $300 I would be **** off and would try not to get another fine.

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Thats exactly it.

Most people dont care about driving properly they just dont want to get another fine.
I like to follow really slow drivers and watch how dangerous they are.
They become an unexpected obsticle that throws the traffic profile into a chaotic **** mess that **** everybody off and causes tailgating, harsh lane changes, people getting cut off, speeding and road rage. I dont condone any of this behaviour but the reality is that if you drive 20 kms under the limit you are just as much of a risk as somone driving 20kms over. Its the difference in speed that causes the damage. Everybody should drive the limit, no more no less, otherwise you are creating unnessesary 'turbulence' that creates potential hazards.

I **** hate slow ****.


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que eff tee ! ^^^


Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:33 am

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After work I found I'd accidentally crawl 5 to 10 K's over the speed limit. 10 hours of work in the heat and an hour and a half drive home can do that to you. I'd notice I'm speeding then slow down again, but it only takes some ***** with a radar or camera set up to take the money away from the last 2 days of work you've just done.

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