I have to catch a train and a bus to get to work, and I'm going to be getting one to make the commute easier. Public transport in Brisbane is ridiculously expensive, so I figure it'll almost pay for itself after a few years, not taking into account rego, insurance and maintenance costs. I have my RE open license, but only learners for a car, so for now a car is out of the question. I'll go for my R license at some point, but there's a surprisingly large list of decent powered motos that you're allowed to ride on the RE license.
A friend of the family is one of the head honchos at a moto dealer, and he's getting me a decent deal on an '09 GS500 with 22Ks, that somebody traded in - $4200 rideaway, down from about $5500 with on road costs. The problem is that although I have some experience and can ride no probs, I basically know **** about the ongoing maintenance of a bike, and anything mechanical-wise. Hoping somebody might have some advice on good community forums or sites?
Assumming you have no real experience in a car I feel concerned for your safety. Understanding traffic on the roads you frequent is worth its weight in blood. I know this sounds basic but unlike cars, motor cycles have no crumple zones. Any mistake by yourself or another driver resulting in a collision will hurt, in a bank balance kinda way and a Taliban IED kinda way.
You are smart, you have quick reflexes and you dont take risks.
I wouldn't ride a bike just to save money. But each to their own. Personally hoping Norton release their rotary motorbike to the public and I might consider getting my license.
Assumming you have no real experience in a car I feel concerned for your safety. Understanding traffic on the roads you frequent is worth its weight in blood. I know this sounds basic but unlike cars, motor cycles have no crumple zones. Any mistake by yourself or another driver resulting in a collision will hurt, in a bank balance kinda way and a Taliban IED kinda way.
You are smart, you have quick reflexes and you dont take risks.
I own a scooter but I have never used it mainly because of the **** I see when driving my car. It's kind of like "**** that imagine if I was on a bike just then" every time I see something bad.
Plus it is way to hot not to have Air-Con for 8months of every year in FNQ.
There's some advantages to it, men won't ask you for lifts (no homo), women might ask you for lifts, petrol i think is a little cheaper (or is it more expensive?), and i think you don't get your balls ripped off as much as maintenance for a car.
But. you. need. eyes. in. the. back. of. your. ***.
You have no protection even in a minor collision and drivers just don't care or notice you, especially those 4WD portable fortresses that women drive their kids to school in.
my uncle got cleaned up by some unlicensed junkie in 2010. 3 months intensive care for burns to the bottom half of his body. Can barely walk, still on morphine, lost the use of his right arm. His pillion lost her foot and has minor brain damage.
Had my GF on the back and we were going down a footpath on the side of a really steep hill, really fast, and we were both mucking around and i wasn't paying attention.
The footpath wasn't paved it was a bitumen footpath poorly maintained and she leaned back and sideways at the wrong time taking a corner and the bike just went out of control.
So we both came flying off and rolled along the path ending up in a heap.
It really hurt and i tore my favorite jacket sleeve and on the elbow too all the way thru also my kneecap on my pants and got gravel burn on my elbow knee and hands - thank goodness i was wearing a jacket and she was pretty much ok
But u really need to be careful and pay attention all the time cause its dangerous
In NSW a learner is only allowed to ride a bike up to 250 cc. bukes are great for saving money and cutting travel time. But the added danger isn't worth it. I don't know, Maybe brissy drivers are better than dubbo drivers
It really hurt and i tore my favorite jacket sleeve and on the elbow too all the way thru also my kneecap on my pants and got gravel burn on my elbow knee and hands - thank goodness i was wearing a jacket and she was pretty much ok
First world hispter problems
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been riding since i was 17, currently on a triumph sprint 955.
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buy as powerful as you can , 250s are death traps, you need speed and tourque (this pulls the bike vertical as you accelerate) to avoid gravel rash if you or others are being silly.
dont discount the advise about other road users. just assume that you havent been seen. stick to the right hand tire track in the lane you are in. give yourself time to brake and be ready to drop a gear so you arent hit from behind. in reality it takes no time at all to become comfortable on the road .. whilst observing simple rider only awereness.
nice choice of bike btw. you may want to check out hyosung they are not bad for learner/permit years and look pretty sharp for the price.
Nice bike mate, like Andy I was riding bikes for quite a few years, first bike was a Yamaha RZ250 slightly modded which was ok to learn on, but bigger is better so went with these guys, a Yamaha SR500, Triumph bonnie T120 '70 650 and lastly a race prepped Suzuki RG500 which I raced at lakeside and used as my daily.
Only been into road bikes and being on public roads is what made me give it up lol. As other have stated, NEVER ASSUME that someone has seen you, people can look right at you and still not see you, always be on the look out for **** drivers. Not sure if it's mandatory now but LIGHTS ON at all times and when behind cars MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE THEIR FACE in their mirrors.
I don't give a **** what anybody says, WEAR FULL LEATHER one or two peice, even if its hot, gravel/road rash is not fun when the hospital has to scrub it out with a course brush.
Buy the BEST HELMET you can afford, I've broken toes, ribs, collar bones, arm, leg but haven't got a full on brain injury (well not proven lol).
**** missed the point lol, maintenance is easy, change the oil every 6 months or so and lube chain, check brake fluid along withs pads every month or so(I'm anal lol) and don't leave your bike out in the weather, garage is best.
Nah I hadn't, but just looked and **** wow!! What a sexy looking beast and it has more horsies than a standard 13B, I reckon if I bought a bike again it'd be one of those
Assumming you have no real experience in a car I feel concerned for your safety. Understanding traffic on the roads you frequent is worth its weight in blood. I know this sounds basic but unlike cars, motor cycles have no crumple zones. Any mistake by yourself or another driver resulting in a collision will hurt, in a bank balance kinda way and a Taliban IED kinda way.
You are smart, you have quick reflexes and you dont take risks.
I've had my car learners since I was a teenager, used to chauffeur my folks around and occasionally "borrow" the car for joyrides, so I'm pretty comfortable on the roads. Just never got around to getting an open license. Also been riding bikes forever, and like to think I'm a good defensive rider. I came off and lost some skin a couple of times when I was younger, but I've reached the age (and been through enough ****) where I have no desire to risk my health. Bike accidents are most often a case of user stupidity, even when another driver is at fault.
Circa wrote:
I wouldn't ride a bike just to save money. But each to their own. Personally hoping Norton release their rotary motorbike to the public and I might consider getting my license.
Also getting it because I love riding bikes. Can't wait to go for a trip up the coastal roads.
In terms of saving money, it's going to be like $50 a week to pay off, and that's what I pay now just for public transport! It's a royal **** around, just over an hour's commute daily because the bus routes are spastic (have to catch a train in towards the city, then a bus back out), but with a bike I'll be at work in ten minutes. I also work split shifts with a 2.5 hour break in between, so instead of kicking around for a couple of hours I can **** off home and relax for a bit.
In NSW a learner is only allowed to ride a bike up to 250 cc. bukes are great for saving money and cutting travel time. But the added danger isn't worth it. I don't know, Maybe brissy drivers are better than dubbo drivers
RE is the type of license bike riders have to get initially, with Ls, Ps, and then Os, same as any license. Then after having your provisional or opens for a year, you can get an R license, which is the unrestricted motorcycle license.
In Queensland, you need to be riding a Learner Approved Motorcycle if you're on an RE license, basically most bikes bike under 660cc, but that list includes bikes like the Ducati monster 659 (1 under lol).
Brisbane drivers are **** terrible, so I'm going to have my work cut out for me lol, but it should be alright if I'm diligent.
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nice choice of bike btw. you may want to check out hyosung they are not bad for learner/permit years and look pretty sharp for the price.
That bike looks nice, and has a good price point, but the GS500 just seems to be THE entry level bike to get. A lot of people seem to buy them as a starter bike, then end up sticking with them, or going back to them after buying other bikes. Great reputation as being ultra reliable and user friendly.
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I don't give a **** what anybody says, WEAR FULL LEATHER one or two peice, even if its hot, gravel/road rash is not fun when the hospital has to scrub it out with a course brush.
Buy the BEST HELMET you can afford, I've broken toes, ribs, collar bones, arm, leg but haven't got a full on brain injury (well not proven lol).
**** missed the point lol, maintenance is easy, change the oil every 6 months or so and lube chain, check brake fluid along withs pads every month or so(I'm anal lol) and don't leave your bike out in the weather, garage is best.
Yeah I'll be getting a suit for sure. Always irks me when I see some guy riding along in a shirt and shorts.
Got any advice on good sources of info for educating yourself on the mechanical side of things? I'd like to end up at the point where I can basically disassemble the thing and put it back together.
Honestly Cherocha, best thing is a Hays or whatever service manual for the bike you purchase, I haven't dealt with many bike forums lately sorry, but rotary forums yes, and regardless of the forum you get divided opinions about every aspect, hence why service manual will provide you with a best knowledge of what the manufacturer recommends.
PS: I'm talkin proper manufacturer manual with detail part schematics, torque settings, not some intro on how a motorbike works **** lol
Didn't think about the manual, wasn't even sure what information it would cover in terms of technical ****. Will probably spend some time with the guy that I'm buying it off as well, he's a bit of a bike obsessive.
I work catering in a big retirement village tanman. Old people are awesome.
omg i went to see my grandpar (hes almost brain dead now) in a dimentia ward of one holy **** i was scared one eyed me off for my seat so i got up and they roam the halls when we were leaving one asked if we could let her out and then we left while others restrained her
also another vist this random dude came into his room and started sleeping on his bed wtf we had to call someone i guess they are cool when they have there marbles is the place your working at catholic the place my grandpar was at has cross everywhere
Yeah Cherocha manuals have everything from basic service to total rebuilds and are worth their weight in gold, and having a mate means less chance of **** up, unless you're both wasted then just go watch movies or some **** lol.
i think you are predisposed to dementia beiltanman, and at this point you ought to consider drinking heavily to dull the pain of knowing what will befall you. Do this before you fall asleep in another mans bed, or start talking like you type. For the love of god. Whose symbol is a cross. Also i had you pegged as a catholic.. a catholic muppet, as i recall.
i service my bike every 1000k. normally the rear tyre and front brake work harder than the rest of the machine. oils and fluids, and check the headstem bearings by putting the center stand up and turning the bars looking for slop there, and the other thing i check is the brake discs for grooving, and chain slack. the rest is taken care of by the dealer service (5000km). Mainly cause removing the full fairing can take a whole afternoon.
God blt is a muppet. I cant stress that enough. hes like gonzo or **** oscar the elmo. hey remember that elmo voice guy was up for rape earlier this year? do you suppose he was all like in character and going like "yoo make elmo sooo happy!" sick ****.
i think you are predisposed to dementia beiltanman, and at this point you ought to consider drinking heavily to dull the pain of knowing what will befall you. Do this before you fall asleep in another mans bed, or start talking like you type. For the love of god. Whose symbol is a cross. Also i had you pegged as a catholic.. a catholic muppet, as i recall.
Its always safer to assume that some retarded **** in front of you will try and **** your **** up.
Riding up the coast from where you live sounds pretty sweet... My mind is made up, you?
Brisbane drivers are retarded, but I won't be tailgating or weaving in and out of traffic etc. Going to stick to backroads as much as possible until I'm confident enough that I can rely on my instincts and muscle memory in a sticky situation.
I'm already committed to the bike, getting the financing sorted, should have it within a week or two, depending on work. Pretty excited to be honest. Probably won't get a chance to have a good ride up to far Nth QLD for a couple of years, but it's a goal to look forward to.
The drivers on the m1 between brissy and the goldy are **** retarded during the peak hours but late night/realearly morning would give you a good run to get used to ya bike.
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I used to live in Hervey Bay and worked commercial fishing around Fraser. It's about 4 hours drive. Probably pop up there on a long weekend at some point to catch up with friends. It'd also be fantastic to do the Vic to WA circuit, check out the great Australian bite etc. Just all a matter of time and money I guess.
Do it, it's beautiful up there. Done a little snorkelling and diving out from Airlie and the Whitsundays. Lots of fish, and as you'd expect, quite a bit of coral.
Australia is underrated by most Australians. You always kind of plan for exotic trips to other countries, but we have some pretty nice **** here too.
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or one of these brand new.
great for around town.
this is about motorbikes not mobility scooters.
