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Some people have asked why wasn't Hitler killed at birth ? for all we know amongst those dead children was tomorrows Hitler so we should all be happy that a disaster has been averted.

And the presidents response was priceless President Barack Obama
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"We're going to have to come together to meaningful action".


Seriously i am flabbergasted that he is going to beat around the bush do a bit of hairy chest beating and then do absolutely nothing.

This is an almost criminal attitude of gross negligence and reflects upon his lack of leader ship.

If this was the first time this had happened we could all be shocked and wring our hands but it is not and it happens so often it has become as banal as the reporting of a car crash or a missing dog.

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I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.


Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:21 pm
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I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.

Go mad and kill yourself with it.

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Iff only they had automated gun turrets installed none of this would have happened.

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then what, 50 dead cause some *** hacked the school's network with the password 1234? or better still, school gets held hostage by ruskies who want 50 bucks for hookers?

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obviously the dead killer was a fan of violent video games

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obviously the dead killer was a fan of violent video games


up next on aca: why violent video games should be banned.

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SaRg3nT1 wrote:
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obviously the dead killer was a fan of violent video games


up next on aca: why violent video games should be banned.


Guns don't kill people, playing video games with guns in them, kills people.



Wait, if you were good at FPS, and you went on a killing spree. You would get like 50 kills or more before dying. So obviously video games have not caused any of these massacres.

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Obviously the gunner was American.

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what the **** is wrong with that country


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3 out of 10 wrote:
Circa wrote:
I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.

Go mad and kill yourself with it.

Strange response. You must be one of that anti-gun weirdos.


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my last post in a thread like this was something along the lines of

"Everybody has the right to bear arms... such as these single shot muskets and bayonets"
-American Constitution, 1787

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Yeah, I reckon they should just honour the second amendment by allowing people to own a single bolt action .22 rifle.


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If they had any sense the part of the country that aren't **** redneck NRA member gun-toting racist NASCAR fans would pressure the government into ripping the entire second amendment up.

Or actually fixing it so that the part about a 'well regulated militia' requires service in the National Guard instead of something that is completely and utterly meaningless.


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And the presidents response was priceless President Barack Obama
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"We're going to have to come together to meaningful action".


Seriously i am flabbergasted that he is going to beat around the bush do a bit of hairy chest beating and then do absolutely nothing.

Every time there's a mass shooting, sales in guns and ammunition skyrocket, because of the threat of gun law reforms that are extremely unsettling to the **** of trigger happy wannabe militants that populate America.

Over half of the American population genuinely believe that Obama is either a muslim or a socialist, and there is actually a strong secessionist movement in most of the southern states, as absurd as it sounds. Every time the issue of gun reform comes into play, their numbers bolster, as does the personal **** of hicks everywhere.

If you think he can snap his fingers and make calls for reforms (reforms that don't have **** chance of ever making it through the gauntlet that is the second amendment and republican filibustering), without there being a potentially violent backlash, the likes of which haven't been seen since 1861, you're completely oblivious to the reality of politics in America.

Your crack about Hitler was disgusting, and you're a stupid **** ****.

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I think it is retarded that, the only person who seems to have a gun is doing the serial killing. Hur dur guns protect us from criminals blah blah blah. **** Americans.

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cherocha regurgitating propaganda is hardly having an opinion the catastrophe of guns in the states is well known.
What is lacking is leadership and the intestinal fortitude to do something useful and you using abusive language is part of the problem,it is this lack of cognitive thinking that gets people shot.

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isn't it Japan that has barely any guns Zaraq? You would sniff their windex safely, without being abused deer Zaraq

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ruleofbookz wrote:
obviously the dead killer was a fan of violent video games


Ohhhh, the poetic justice! The laughable juxtaposition! Indeed they have, in the most foolish of manners, blamed video games. Mass Effect, in fact.

There was a huge backlash against the Mass Effect Facebook page because the killer had 'liked' it... Only it turned out it was the killers BROTHER who liked it! Despite this the page is now flooded with acusations, demands, hatred and religion. :)

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Circa wrote:
I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.

It is a big hassle. Then you get hassled by the cops all the time.


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pjano wrote:
my last post in a thread like this was something along the lines of

"Everybody has the right to bear arms... such as these single shot muskets and bayonets"
-American Constitution, 1787

Those "single shot muskets and bayonets" Were the the best most advanced weapons around.
There is a thing called technology. The founding fathers of america knew that. Thats why they didn;t mention what type of arms ppl were allowed to bear.


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I think it is retarded that, the only person who seems to have a gun is doing the serial killing. Hur dur guns protect us from criminals blah blah blah. **** Americans.

Sort of adds weight to the quote. "If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns" don't you think? Ever noticed how these things only happen where nobody else have guns?


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If they had any sense the part of the country that aren't **** redneck NRA member gun-toting racist NASCAR fans would pressure the government into ripping the entire second amendment up.

The fact that you think that only redneck nascar loving racist own guns in america. Indicates you know very little about the gun culture of the country. And they will never "rip" the second amendment up. That would be stupid beyond belief. Once you set the precedent of **** around with the consitution you open a flood gate that will really **** things up

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Or actually fixing it so that the part about a 'well regulated militia' requires service in the National Guard instead of something that is completely and utterly meaningless.

The milita is not only seen as something to defend themselves against foriegn governments. But also the U.S government.


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pjano wrote:
QUADRUPLE POSTAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH


C-C-C-C-C-Coommbboooo breaker! :(

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Hey man. I am just ending the debate is all.


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wulfgang wrote:
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If they had any sense the part of the country that aren't **** redneck NRA member gun-toting racist NASCAR fans would pressure the government into ripping the entire second amendment up.

The fact that you think that only redneck nascar loving racist own guns in america. Indicates you know very little about the gun culture of the country. And they will never "rip" the second amendment up. That would be stupid beyond belief. Once you set the precedent of **** around with the constitution you open a flood gate that will really **** things up

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Or actually fixing it so that the part about a 'well regulated militia' requires service in the National Guard instead of something that is completely and utterly meaningless.

The milita is not only seen as something to defend themselves against foriegn governments. But also the U.S government.


The rest of the country should be perfectly able to recognise a massive flaw in their current society and fix it. Unlike the racist rednecks.

There's no 'flood gates', changing/repealing their constitution has happened multiple times the policies and procedures are part of Article 5 of the constitution. They US has changed their constitution a dozen times in the last 100 years. Amendments are constantly being brought up, it's not set in stone.

National Guard is a militia already, but it should be made clear that gun ownership should require service in the National Guard specifically as the US's 'militia', and not the current situation where the "militia" simply means "any American citizen".

Australia went through this process after Port Arthur. America just needs the political and civil will to go through with it.


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wulfgang wrote:
Ever noticed how these things only happen where nobody else have guns?


yep the real problem here is that the children weren't armed and couldn't defend themselves.

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Bazroon wrote:
wulfgang wrote:
Ever noticed how these things only happen where nobody else have guns?


yep the real problem here is that the children weren't armed and couldn't defend themselves.


Kindergarden teachers really need close quarters combat training.


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wulfgang wrote:
3 out of 10 wrote:
I think it is retarded that, the only person who seems to have a gun is doing the serial killing. Hur dur guns protect us from criminals blah blah blah. **** Americans.

Sort of adds weight to the quote. "If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns" don't you think? Ever noticed how these things only happen where nobody else have guns?


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Because every hill billy **** moron walking around schools and shopping malls with guns is a good thing? Lolwhatgtfo.

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A Pennyslvania man accidentally shot and killed his 7-year-old son in a gun store parking lot yesterday, when his pistol went off in his hand, police tell the AP. The boy, Craig Loughrey, was strapping himself into his safety seat when his father Joseph, 44, set down a 9mm on the dashboard. The gun went off, hitting Craig. Loughrey says he had removed the gun's magazine earlier, and hadn't realized a bullet was still in the chamber. "This happens all too often," one police officer said.


I wouldn't leave my **** house, if I had to go outside, full body armour and human shields.

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^ that guy was actually trying to sell his gun lol. But they couldn't buy it.


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The ignorance in this thread is strong.


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cherocha wrote:
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And the presidents response was priceless President Barack Obama
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"We're going to have to come together to meaningful action".


Seriously i am flabbergasted that he is going to beat around the bush do a bit of hairy chest beating and then do absolutely nothing.

Every time there's a mass shooting, sales in guns and ammunition skyrocket, because of the threat of gun law reforms that are extremely unsettling to the **** of trigger happy wannabe militants that populate America.

Over half of the American population genuinely believe that Obama is either a muslim or a socialist, and there is actually a strong secessionist movement in most of the southern states, as absurd as it sounds. Every time the issue of gun reform comes into play, their numbers bolster, as does the personal **** of hicks everywhere.

If you think he can snap his fingers and make calls for reforms (reforms that don't have **** chance of ever making it through the gauntlet that is the second amendment and republican filibustering), without there being a potentially violent backlash, the likes of which haven't been seen since 1861, you're completely oblivious to the reality of politics in America.

Your crack about Hitler was disgusting, and you're a stupid **** ****.


This.

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isn't it Japan that has barely any guns Zaraq? You would sniff their windex safely, without being abused deer Zaraq


TYT did a video about this yesterday, it's quite interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvLVX-pMOBw

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The rest of the country should be perfectly able to recognise a massive flaw in their current society and fix it. Unlike the racist rednecks.

There's no 'flood gates', changing/repealing their constitution has happened multiple times the policies and procedures are part of Article 5 of the constitution. They US has changed their constitution a dozen times in the last 100 years. Amendments are constantly being brought up, it's not set in stone.

National Guard is a militia already, but it should be made clear that gun ownership should require service in the National Guard specifically as the US's 'militia', and not the current situation where the "militia" simply means "any American citizen".

Australia went through this process after Port Arthur. America just needs the political and civil will to go through with it.


The problem of course is that The NRA and lobby groups for the arms industry have too much money and too much power over congress and the senate and would pretty much prevent anything getting through regardless of political and/or civil will.


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The problem of course is that The NRA and lobby groups for the arms industry have too much money and too much power over congress and the senate and would pretty much prevent anything getting through regardless of political and/or civil will.


Yep. Unfortunately the only solution to their gun issue is constitutional change. The supreme court has already repeatedly struck down gun control laws due to unconstitutionality, there is not a lot of room to do anything except change the basic law of the law ie the 2nd amendment.


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Gun control isn't by definition unconstitutional though, it's just that pro-gun lobby groups will always label it as such in order to garner support for themselves. Realistically any set of gun control laws which allow the people to own weapons, even if reasonably restricted with regards to the type of gun would still be within the constitution, the real problem is to get rid of the lobbying against gun control. Getting the money out of the system would probably be the biggest thing to help the issue, as is the case with pretty much every important issue in the states at the moment.


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wulfgang wrote:
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I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.

It is a big hassle. Then you get hassled by the cops all the time.



um no.

You play by the rules and you're fine.

Category H license is more difficult to obtain than say A + B, since the only legitimate reason to have one is for sport shooting. It means you need to attend a certain amount of meets per year but if you do everything right the police wont give two ****.

Maybe it's different in Coonabarabran or wherever you're from.


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Personally I don't understand why people even want pistols/AR's. The practical application that they were designed for is to end human lives, unless its the apocalypse they aren't really useful.


edit on the american thing


Problem is they are just coming to the realization that having several million assault rifles and other high powered weapons floating around in the hands of pretty much anyone who wants one, can be a bad thing. They can't really backtrack because the 2nd amendment can, and is twisted by gun nuts to hinder any rational progress.

The cat's really out of the bag, and its going to be very hard for anyone, least of all congressmen to reduce the number of m16ak47grenadelaunchercombos without being 'unconstitutional'. Not to mention, companies that make weapons in the states, from the fighter jets down to the pistols, have pretty big clout in terms of wads of cash, and connections, not to mention making up a decent part of the economy.

Also, I think everyone understands the flaws of the 'band aid solution' of having to arm everyday people to the teeth, just in case a one in a million gun slinger comes in the door to kill everyone.

It'll be interesting to see what compromise they come up with while trying to stop the south from blowing a gasket and starting civil war 2.


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Gun control isn't by definition unconstitutional though, it's just that pro-gun lobby groups will always label it as such in order to garner support for themselves. Realistically any set of gun control laws which allow the people to own weapons, even if reasonably restricted with regards to the type of gun would still be within the constitution, the real problem is to get rid of the lobbying against gun control. Getting the money out of the system would probably be the biggest thing to help the issue, as is the case with pretty much every important issue in the states at the moment.


Recent Supreme Court decisions have made gun control a very hard thing to get legislated for states.


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Maybe America is too far gone and taking away guns will just start a civil war.

Let it **** burn.

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As crazy as it sounds, civil war isn't beyond the realm of possibility. It's too late to crack down, and if they somehow managed to get reforms through and restrict sales or try to make people hand in their weapons, tens of thousands of heavily armed nutters would see it as a direct attack on their freedom by a filthy socialist muslim, and the **** would hit the fan.

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cherocha regurgitating propaganda is hardly having an opinion the catastrophe of guns in the states is well known.
What is lacking is leadership and the intestinal fortitude to do something useful and you using abusive language is part of the problem,it is this lack of cognitive thinking that gets people shot.

You are such a naive **** that it boggles my mind.

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Noah wrote:
wulfgang wrote:
Circa wrote:
I was thinking of getting my hand gun license.

It is a big hassle. Then you get hassled by the cops all the time.



um no.

You play by the rules and you're fine.

Category H license is more difficult to obtain than say A + B, since the only legitimate reason to have one is for sport shooting. It means you need to attend a certain amount of meets per year but if you do everything right the police wont give two ****.

Maybe it's different in Coonabarabran or wherever you're from.

****. When you own a pistol licence. It shows up on your licence when ever the police run a check on your plates for what ever reason. When it comes up you have a licence you will be pulled over 9 times out of 10. I know what a sport shooting licence is. I have one.
And obtaining a pistol licence is a bigger hassle than a normal licence.


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It's a gaming forum, but nobody cares that they found a way to blame Mass Effect for this? C'mon! It's funny! :D

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... t-shooting

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unfortunately it has become the common cliche, after someone doing something violent and stupid, that somewhere someone in the media is writing a story / linking that it was video games and other people lapping it up

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Funny if they banned violent video games but let them keep their guns.

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cherocha wrote:
As crazy as it sounds, civil war isn't beyond the realm of possibility. It's too late to crack down, and if they somehow managed to get reforms through and restrict sales or try to make people hand in their weapons, tens of thousands of heavily armed nutters would see it as a direct attack on their freedom by a filthy socialist muslim, and the **** would hit the fan.

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cherocha regurgitating propaganda is hardly having an opinion the catastrophe of guns in the states is well known.
What is lacking is leadership and the intestinal fortitude to do something useful and you using abusive language is part of the problem,it is this lack of cognitive thinking that gets people shot.

You are such a naive **** that it boggles my mind.

According to the internet there are close to 80million armed civilians in America.

I also watched this episode of Louis Theroux last year and he visited this place in the mountians located in one of the US states where these guys had taken there families away from normal American life to build a self sustianing community that pays no taxes and sees the governement as a threat to their American way of life. These guys will kill any governement agent or soldier that comes with in 100 feet of the township. I dont even think the US government knows where they are located but if they do find out they will need to send the army.

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It's a gaming forum, but nobody cares that they found a way to blame Mass Effect for this? C'mon! It's funny! :D

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... t-shooting

Holy ****, the level of stupid such a high percentage of the world are... I'm actually scared. This **** freaks me out. Argh. No wonder why I drink so much ;)

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