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God dammit.. I wanna play Rush... and not with CG's crazy restrictions

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Fri May 04, 2012 1:17 pm
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ThatWallyGuy wrote:
God dammit.. I wanna play Rush... and not with CG's crazy restrictions


+1

lets get this going champs Team Revolt are keen to scrim rush

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Mon May 14, 2012 11:19 am
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ThatWallyGuy wrote:
God dammit.. I wanna play Rush... and not with CG's crazy restrictions


+100000000

AIM's decided we won't be entering our main team into anything CG if we can avoid it. The restrictions are rediculous.

That said, GA seem to be suggesting Pay-to-Play ladders; we'd also rather not just give our money to Karnage Krew, etc. So, get a ladder going without prizes if you must, but get something going, please!

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Mon May 14, 2012 3:14 pm
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oeterb wrote:
ThatWallyGuy wrote:
God dammit.. I wanna play Rush... and not with CG's crazy restrictions


+100000000

AIM's decided we won't be entering our main team into anything CG if we can avoid it. The restrictions are rediculous.

in all seriousness, whats in the restrictions and why is it rediculous


Mon May 14, 2012 6:54 pm
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Garry wrote:
oeterb wrote:
ThatWallyGuy wrote:
God dammit.. I wanna play Rush... and not with CG's crazy restrictions


+100000000

AIM's decided we won't be entering our main team into anything CG if we can avoid it. The restrictions are rediculous.

in all seriousness, whats in the restrictions and why is it rediculous


Can't confirm for 10v10 Rush, as it's not up yet. But for 4v4 Rush, and these are pretty standard rules across the other ladders, too...

No flashlights, IRNV, M320, claymores, C4, SRAWs, RPGs, MAVs, Tugs for starters...

You're not allowed to break walls, etc. While, yes, this MIGHT help even some games up at the top of the table, you're effectively not playing BF3, but a very much culled down version.

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Mon May 14, 2012 7:24 pm
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We have not given up.
The push is still on for a Rush ladder.


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oeterb wrote:
But for 4v4 Rush, and these are pretty standard rules across the other ladders, too...

No flashlights, IRNV, M320, claymores, C4, SRAWs, RPGs, MAVs, Tugs for starters....

Well here's the restricted list for 8v8 conquest (which I'd imagine the rush ladder would take after).

2.1 The following Weapon attachments/Accessories/Unlocks are not allowed
- Flashlights
- IRNV
- M320 (Grenade Launcher Version)
- Frag Rounds
- M320 Buck
- M26 MASS
- M26 DART
- M26 FRAG
- M26 SLUG

The squad rush restrictions are fair enough since there's no vehicles. You don't really need to be using rockets on 4 infantry, and stuff like claymores are more annoying than tactical. Only thing I don't agree with is the restriction of the Recon class (although I don't disagree with it either; just don't know whether it's better or worse with motion sensors).

As you can see in 8v8 the only things that are restricted are things that are broken, as well as two M320 variants.


Mon May 14, 2012 8:30 pm
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nussbuster wrote:
oeterb wrote:
But for 4v4 Rush, and these are pretty standard rules across the other ladders, too...

No flashlights, IRNV, M320, claymores, C4, SRAWs, RPGs, MAVs, Tugs for starters....

Well here's the restricted list for 8v8 conquest (which I'd imagine the rush ladder would take after).

2.1 The following Weapon attachments/Accessories/Unlocks are not allowed
- Flashlights
- IRNV
- M320 (Grenade Launcher Version)
- Frag Rounds
- M320 Buck
- M26 MASS
- M26 DART
- M26 FRAG
- M26 SLUG

The squad rush restrictions are fair enough since there's no vehicles. You don't really need to be using rockets on 4 infantry, and stuff like claymores are more annoying than tactical. Only thing I don't agree with is the restriction of the Recon class (although I don't disagree with it either; just don't know whether it's better or worse with motion sensors).

As you can see in 8v8 the only things that are restricted are things that are broken, as well as two M320 variants.


Well, SRAWS, C4, etc, have been outlawed to stop blowing holes in walls / building smore than using them to defend points. For example, blowing a whole in the back wall of a building to get to an MComm that you otherwise have to go through deathtraps to get to is not allowed. Same restrictions will apply to the Rush ladder because they don't believe in breaking stuff for tactical advantage.

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Mon May 14, 2012 8:51 pm

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You can't assume that RPGs and C4 etc won't be allowed in normal rush due to the fact that there are vehicles.

You also can't assume that destruction won't be allowed either. What happens in the event that the wreckage of a jet crashes into the side of a key building and destroys one of the walls? Who gets in trouble for that?


Mon May 14, 2012 9:07 pm
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nussbuster wrote:
You can't assume that RPGs and C4 etc won't be allowed in normal rush due to the fact that there are vehicles.

You also can't assume that destruction won't be allowed either. What happens in the event that the wreckage of a jet crashes into the side of a key building and destroys one of the walls? Who gets in trouble for that?


This is true.

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lol


Great contribution. I see why you like GA so much.

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Mon May 14, 2012 9:44 pm

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you are somehow confusing the squad rush rules with cgs non existent rush rules. if cg hosts a rush ladder there wont be restrictions on breaking walls or using rockets/grenades etc.


Tue May 15, 2012 8:08 am
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I think its more of a case that they have put stupid restritions on the their other ladders so far so.. a restrictions on the Rush ladder can be expected..


but Sessiously.. no blowing up walls?!?!

they might as well go play CoD.. or CS

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Tue May 15, 2012 9:18 am
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ThatWallyGuy wrote:
I think its more of a case that they have put stupid restritions on the their other ladders so far so.. a restrictions on the Rush ladder can be expected..


but Sessiously.. no blowing up walls?!?!

they might as well go play CoD.. or CS


Pathetic restrictions trying to make the game into CS like they did with the **** small format BF2 comps that forced us to run mods to limit kit loadouts etc etc

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CG should probably be ok, the only thing they may be banning looks like Jets in the jet maps, as basically after the first jet goes down the other guy can camp the jet as much as he wants and even steal it without contest.

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I'am in two minds about the jet... banning

Just becuase on Capsian Border the Jet wins the map.. but without the jets to keep the helios out.. it will be who can atk quicker wins..

The one thing I would say ban.. would be a tatic on that exact map where once you know you have got the first two is to have the helio with people from various squads in it hover above the next set of points just to get the plant before the def can actually set up.. I have used that tatic several times on pugs and its a tad broken

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Thu May 17, 2012 12:56 pm
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so I take it GA are failing to provide a RUSH ladder?

poor form.................

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Final testing of the setup tomorrow, so should be open for freeplay later this week.


Tue May 22, 2012 4:21 pm
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WEEEEE! :D

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Tue May 22, 2012 6:40 pm
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awesome :)

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Excellent!!!

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Seriously awesome news! Please by later this week mean later this week!

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Wed May 23, 2012 1:22 pm
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And now I don't need to worry about CG restrictions... "Hey! No flashlights! Hey, no laser des! Hey, no guns that fire bullets! Hey, that knife is too sharp! Hey, go away, you're only meant to cap flags!"

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Any news on this?

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Sat May 26, 2012 6:46 pm
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Should be open for free play after testing is complete.

Later in the week is the latest best guess at this stage.


Sat May 26, 2012 7:41 pm
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I dont think i would be guessing just yet Pinge.

My answer would be I have no idea.

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Sat May 26, 2012 11:42 pm

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ThatWallyGuy wrote:
I think its more of a case that they have put stupid restritions on the their other ladders so far so.. a restrictions on the Rush ladder can be expected..


but Sessiously.. no blowing up walls?!?!

they might as well go play CoD.. or CS


they put the restrictions on the squad rush ladder only because blowing through walls changed the dynamics of the maps too much for some players. i dont really care about it, but getting rocket or tube kills would ruin squad rush.

i can guarantee you there would never be any rule about breaking walls in a cg rush ladder that is 8v8 or higher. believe it, or dont, w/e.


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Assuming we don't have a meltdown like last week... final testing is happening now before we go freeplay. I hope to have something concrete to announce tomorrow.


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It would upset alot of players if they put all the time and effort into Rush team play only to have some fat kid spam the map to **** for free kills with rockets or plant 50 gaymores and hide behind them. I wouldnt start flogging the dead horse about it being like COD just yet lol, Rush on public servers is more painful then urethra scraping.

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Tests have worked out fine, so freeplay later this week. Will be a short freeplay just to get a couple of matches in to iron our any bugs, then we'll go live.


Tue May 29, 2012 11:53 am
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Malthius wrote:
Tests have worked out fine, so freeplay later this week. Will be a short freeplay just to get a couple of matches in to iron our any bugs, then we'll go live.


Win. Live now? :D

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Tue May 29, 2012 2:06 pm
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Adsa needs to confirm for me that the rules I've used are the rules he wants (on the server side), then we can grab a spice weasel and bam it up a notch. No chance you guys will beat either of the top two teams though, so guess you'll all be competing for third place.


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Malthius wrote:
No chance you guys will beat either of the top two teams though, so guess you'll all be competing for third place.


[AIM] is ready to bring it...

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Tue May 29, 2012 5:26 pm
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You'd need to look at the ladder to get the joke.


Tue May 29, 2012 8:28 pm
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Malthius wrote:
You'd need to look at the ladder to get the joke.


Oh, haha! Last I looked, it was like Carnage and FanT or something. But, heh, is more amusing now... :D

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Malthius wrote:
Adsa needs to confirm for me that the rules I've used are the rules he wants (on the server side), then we can grab a spice weasel and bam it up a notch.


Donzor, just a minor tweak needed.

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Malthius wrote:
No chance you guys will beat either of the top two teams though, so guess you'll all be competing for third place.



oh u sure u wanna play dat game bro lmao xD


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haha!!

Looking good guys

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Made the changes that Adsa asked for (well, he politely told me I'd forgotten to do some stuff), so last check this afternoon, probably Freeplay tomorrow.


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Can we add a rule that states nobody is allowed to kill OeterB? I need the help.

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im sure you do :lol:


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